To permit, or not to permit? That is the question.

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TITLE 21 § 1289.25 (D)
D. A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has
a right to be has no duty to retreat...

There's the rub. Carrying without a permit is unlawful...and therefore said person IS engaged in unlawful activity and arguably could lose the protection of the Stand Your Ground law.
 

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It's all in title 21. Not the DA so I can't tell the specifics, but I'm pretty sure carrying a concealed gun is illegal without a permit.

nope sorry just a misdemeanor...but yes it is illegal.

Title 21. Crimes and Punishments
Chapter 53 - Manufacture, Sale, and Wearing of Weapons
Section 1272 - Unlawful Carry
Cite as: O.S. §, __ __



UNLAWFUL CARRY

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to carry upon or about his or her person, or in a purse or other container belonging to the person, any pistol, revolver, shotgun or rifle whether loaded or unloaded or any dagger, bowie knife, dirk knife, switchblade knife, spring-type knife, sword cane, knife having a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife, blackjack, loaded cane, billy, hand chain, metal knuckles, or any other offensive weapon, whether such weapon be concealed or unconcealed, except this section shall not prohibit:

1. The proper use of guns and knives for hunting, fishing, educational or recreational purposes;

2. The carrying or use of weapons in a manner otherwise permitted by statute or authorized by the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act;

3. The carrying, possession and use of any weapon by a peace officer or other person authorized by law to carry a weapon in the performance of official duties and in compliance with the rules of the employing agency;

4. The carrying or use of weapons in a courthouse by a district judge, associate district judge or special district judge within this state, who is in possession of a valid handgun license issued pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act and whose name appears on a list maintained by the Administrative Director of the Courts; or

5. The carrying and use of firearms and other weapons provided in this subsection when used for the purpose of living history reenactment. For purposes of this paragraph, "living history reenactment" means depiction of historical characters, scenes, historical life or events for entertainment, education, or historical documentation through the wearing or use of period, historical, antique or vintage clothing, accessories, firearms, weapons, and other implements of the historical period.

B. Any person convicted of violating the foregoing provision shall be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable as provided in Section 1276 of this title
 

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There's the rub. Carrying without a permit is unlawful...and therefore said person IS engaged in unlawful activity and arguably could lose the protection of the Stand Your Ground law.
How dare you bring facts and logic in here.
Besides, he's done
 

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What if your committing some other misdemeanor when you are forced to use deadly force? Say you turn the wrong way down a one way street and you're car jacked. Carrying without a permit does not cost your protection under SYG. IMO.
 

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