I have yet to see any substantial posts from the open carry crowd concerning training of any sort relating to weapons retention of situational awareness. Nor have I seen any serious discussion on the selection of appropriate gear. Instead we get Mahhhh Righhttttssss and crying over being asked to leave because the gunbuster sticker wasn't blatantly obvious. I consider a significant portion of the open carry threads to be comedic relief at best and downright harmful to their own movement at worst. It's not open carry I'm opposed to its the people who make a mockery of a very sobering decision that has great consequences if they are not prepared. I honestly want to slap the piss out of people I have seen with a pistol in a floppy nylon holster on a belt that sags and does not keep the weapon tight against the carrier.