Active shooter, Ft. Hood

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Bill Clinton's stupid f%$#ing law strikes again. Every soldier should be armed on base so if this happens they can drop 'em before it gets bad.

From what I've researched, it appears the Department of Defense Directive 5210.56 is what transformed military bases into gun free zones. It was signed into effect in February 1992 by Donald J. Atwood, deputy secretary of defense under President George H.W. Bush. I think it's time the DoD revisit this directive. I agree and think all active military duty personnel should have their sidearm at all times. Well, I think everybody should, but you know what I mean.
 

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A friend of mine was living on Ft. Sill five or 6 years ago and had some shotguns and rifles at his home. He lived out by the Medicine Park gate and I believe he was an NCO but can't remember his exact rank. Don't know if they were registered or not.

As far as getting something on base it is 100% true that the guards are very lax, especially if you have a DOD sticker on the vehicle. The check more often if you are just visiting a friend but even then it's still pretty low after a couple times through the gate. When I was visiting my friend the guards would scan my ID and then ask if I was headed up to visit again and send me on my way after I said "Yes".
 

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Heck, back in the 70's I had an RCBS Rock Chucker set up in my dorm room closet. Made all kinds of .38s/.357s and .45 ACPs every week. We used to bring our guns back to the dorm to clean them after a day at the Gulfport Police range, then take them back to the base armory when we were done cleaning them.
 
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All the talk on the radio and tube about concealed carry. BS! This is the freaking military! :pissed:

What's the first thing that happens when these pukes encounter armed resistance? That's right, they off themselves. It ain't rocket science. Issue EVERYONE a sidearm and ammo, make them carry it loaded and ready to go on their person at all times when in uniform regardless of MOS. PERIOD! (not one of those Obama "periods") Problem solved. Or at least mitigated to a great extent.
 
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All the talk on the radio and tube about concealed carry. BS! This is the freaking military! :pissed:

What's the first thing that happens when these pukes encounter armed resistance? That's right, they off themselves. It ain't rocket science. Issue EVERYONE a sidearm and ammo, make them carry it loaded and ready to go on their person at all times when in uniform regardless of MOS. PERIOD! (not one of those Obama "periods") Problem solved. Or at least mitigated to a great extent.

It can't be overstated that the military is FAR more concerned with command and control than readiness. It doesn't matter whether the military COULD train and arm military personnel to defend themselves, but that it would contradict every precept of their command philosophy. :(
 

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I've commented ad nausaem on here, over the years, in regards to my feelings about the impracticality of arming GIs on base during their normal duties so I won't repeat that history. What I will post is a release from the Wounded Warrior Project in regards to the feeding frenzy the media is having with this story and their hysteria over "PTSD". It echos my thoughts...if you claim to give a sh$t, please read it all.

The WWP family is saddened by the tragedy at Fort Hood. In the days and weeks to come, we anticipate much of the media dialogue will center around the shooter's military service and mental health. Please remember this was the act of a single individual. We do all service members, warriors and individuals with mental health needs a disservice when we paint them with a broad brush based upon the actions of one or a few.

Nearly all of America’s sons and daughters who have served in uniform have done so honorably and with distinction. They are law-abiding citizens who contribute greatly to their communities. It is unfair and unjust to conclude that any service member or veteran dealing with military related stress is considered a risk for violence. Those living with invisible injuries often suffer in silence because of these negative portrayals.

If you are a warrior of this generation coping with the invisible wounds of war, WWP has resources for you, all of which are free of charge. Please don't be discouraged by what you may hear in the news - seek help. These psychological wounds are real and normal. WWP is here to support and advocate for you during your successful recovery and beyond. We're with you all the way!

We are calling on those covering these events to do their homework and understand the impact of their words. We all have a responsibility to fairly and accurately discuss these complex issues.
 

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I've commented ad nausaem on here, over the years, in regards to my feelings about the impracticality of arming GIs on base during their normal duties so I won't repeat that history. What I will post is a release from the Wounded Warrior Project in regards to the feeding frenzy the media is having with this story and their hysteria over "PTSD". It echos my thoughts...if you claim to give a sh$t, please read it all.

I agree man. I'm not cool with our current Laws regarding PTSD sufferers owning or buying guns. I don't know what the answer is but I've given it alot of thought. In the end I think we need to streamline the adjudicating process. But only on the grounds of protecting our servicemen and women and even that's a slippery slope.
 

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