If you are referring to me . . . I was once married to a master of, ah . . . 'debate'
If you read the Federalist Papers and the other writings of the founders you'd know that exactly what they intended. They had these same arguments back when they wrote the Bill Of Rights. What they gave us were the exact same weapons as any military would have. This included munitions, cannon and even naval ships. If one had the means, it was kosher to them because they knew first hand what it took to fight off an oppressive government military force as they had just defeated the most powerful one in the world at that time.
You're not sure? Really? It sure seems from reading your posts that you are. Vote harder, you'll get there.
You're digging a hole with your ignorance. It seems you're more interested in your emotions than the facts. Since you refuse to educate yourself....... name the law that has been broken..... don't care about you being a Karen about handicap parking spots...... describe how brace owners are skirting the law.
I've never read the 'Federalists Papers' but I will look into them/it. Thanks.If you read the Federalist Papers and the other writings of the founders you'd know that exactly what they intended. They had these same arguments back when they wrote the Bill Of Rights. What they gave us were the exact same weapons as any military would have. This included munitions, cannon and even naval ships. If one had the means, it was kosher to them because they knew first hand what it took to fight off an oppressive government military force as they had just defeated the most powerful one in the world at that time.
You're not sure? Really? It sure seems from reading your posts that you are. Vote harder, you'll get there.
- You know as well as I do that several manufacturers of weapon accessories had marketed 'arm-braces' that were capable of being shoulder-braced which is NOT what the legitimate arm-brace was supposed to be used for. You also know as well as I that the ATF granted (if I can use that word) an exemption to legitimately handicapped individuals for the requirement to register SBR's that were to be used with the arm-brace - all designed to allow paraplegics to safely shoot their rifles or shotguns (both of which had to have shorter barrels for lightness) with just one arm.
- You also know as well as I that SOME non-handicapped individuals purchased [shoulder braced] 'arm-braces' to use with their own SBR's & SBS's, then illegally claimed the exemption granted to the legitimately handicapped in order to get around having to register their own SBR's&SBS's.
- You also know that the ATF re-worded their 'exemption' rulings as well as their definition of "arm-brace" on several occasions to try and address the illegalities that were going on. Of course, as always, it degenerated into nothing more than a blame game with the guilty parties blaming the ATF, blaming the DOJ, blaming the government, blaming the President . . . blaming everyone but those trying to cheat the system.
- You knew exactly what was going on - so don't insult my intelligence with your feigned ignorance and bull-ship talk @JD8.
Are you being obtuse just for the fun of it? I posted this in post #132 of this thread. It's easy Chuckie you only have to read paragraph #4.
I'm 2A to the core, but I do know people who shouldn't have a butter knife, let alone any kind of firearm. This pretty much covers those types. Common sense. However, I'm more than ready to protect myself against all the whack jobs who do obtain a firearn.
The only people I don’t want to have weapons are those would who feign a desire for peace and order to coerce and subjugate myself and my family, and doing so by taking away my weapons.
That list includes:
Any government and all its agencies, bureaus, departments, soldiers and thugs.
Or
Any group or person/people who would attempt to set themselves up in authority to do so (communists, statists, benevolent yet control hungry imbeciles, etc)
This discussion has made it seem like you fall in the latter category, as you likely do desire peace but you are willing to take others’ liberties in pursuit of your self-imagined utopia.
And my rights are not decided by a piece of paper written a couple hundred years ago, it just attempted (and failed) to outline a suggestive (not exhaustive) list of rights that all peoples are inherently in possession of until subjugated by another people group.
And if you had to pick a group to take weapons away from, I’d suggest government and not individuals. Tally up how many deaths in wars in the last two centuries alone have been caused by evil men in charge of empires, and you’ll see that individuals aren’t the problem.
And FWIW, if there were no government put in power by tyrants and benevolent imbeciles, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin wouldn’t exist because there wouldn’t be enough purchase power to keep them in business.
Until I knew otherwise I've always tried to treat people like they have a fair amount of intelligence and common-sense, so to anyone that is truly 'intellectually challenged', please accept my apology for any offense I may have caused by treating you as thoough you had more intelligence and common-sense than you actually do, though I still think that you are probably better than YOU think you are 
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For those that choose to act like they are an 'awe-shucks, dumb as rocks, just a good 'ole boy Red Neck' then I also apologize for trying to treat you as being much smarter than you want others to believe you are - though only the Lord knows why anyone would want to purposely act as if they were stupid.
.For those that choose to act like they are an 'awe-shucks, dumb as rocks, just a good 'ole boy Red Neck' then I also apologize for trying to treat you as being much smarter than you want others to believe you are - though only the Lord knows why anyone would want to purposely act as if they were stupid.
- If you read through things I've posted (rather than the replies of others to what I have posted) you will see that mostly the only items I've railed against being openly available to anyone and everyone fall pretty much just into the Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) category, ergo, grenades, rocket launchers, fully automatic weapons, (machine guns), flame-throwers, and a few others.
- Even when I say that I don't want my (usually drunk or high) gang-banger neighbor to have something like an HBMG .50 cal M2, a Glock G-18, or a box of fragmentation grenades, there is always, unfortunately, someone that invariably starts screaming that I'm anti-2A, or a 'liberal', or a Commie, or some other undesirable that just wants to take everyone's guns away. These people sorely need to grow-up and ask themselves whether, if they had a 'gang-banger' living next to them (keeping in mind that I live in an apartment community), would they be comfortable with that person having Glock-18's or grenades? I think not.
- I've lived in situations like that before (not with grenades but with Uzi's) and it's stressful to say the least, never knowing if/or when those drunk or high idiots are going to start punching holes through your walls.
Put it to rest folks. Again (for like the 100th time) I'm not anti-2A, nor am I of the belief that everyone should be able to have anything they want. Like most others here I believe that some people simply shouldn't be able to have some things - THAT does not make me anti-2A, a Commie, a liberal, a f*g, a democrat, or any other sh*t-tag people seem to love to label others with.
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