Bill to allow guns in Oklahoma courthouses passes House

[Fyrtwuck]

Weapons are not allowed in court.

That may have changed over the years. I can remember thirty years ago that officers were not even allowed to carry in the courtroom. I've seen quite a few take the stand with an empty holster. Years went by and I went to court one day and asked where I needed to store my pistol. The clerk told me " we don't do that anymore, the judges want officers armed." Skeptical, I took the stand with my pistol still in the holster and not a word was said about it.

Things could have changed back since I retired in 2007. I've been to court as a juror once since then and the testifying officer was wearing his.

 

[rawhide]

I'm afraid I can't agree. Give politicians special privileges and they have no incentive to give the rest of us anything. "I've got mine," and all that.

Isn't this about elected county officials, not state legislators?

 

[KOPBET]

That may have changed over the years. I can remember thirty years ago that officers were not even allowed to carry in the courtroom. I've seen quite a few take the stand with an empty holster. Years went by and I went to court one day and asked where I needed to store my pistol. The clerk told me " we don't do that anymore, the judges want officers armed." Skeptical, I took the stand with my pistol still in the holster and not a word was said about it.

Things could have changed back since I retired in 2007. I've been to court as a juror once since then and the testifying officer was wearing his.

Sorry, I should have clarified, "under this bill".

 

[Poke78]

I don't disagree with your comments about the legislature but your position appears to be that everyone should be equally restricted? If you can't carry in the court house then people that work or have business there on a regular basis shouldn't either? I assure you I get it. I work in a gun free zone every day. IMO, incremental steps forward are better than no steps. The alternative may be that the steps go in the wrong direction.

I, too, work in a GFZ every day however the legislature did make car storage legal a few years ago. It had been illegal. Your second sentence does not apply here. The proposed legislation only allows elected county officials the ability to carry at the courthouse, not the minions or the peons, i.e. those getting the daily work of the people done and the people paying the taxes who come to petition the government for some favor.

 

[rawhide]

We tend to give up our liberty incrementally. It's realistic to get them back the same way.

 

[Dave70968]

I don't disagree with your comments about the legislature but your position appears to be that everyone should be equally restricted? If you can't carry in the court house then people that work or have business there on a regular basis shouldn't either? I assure you I get it. I work in a gun free zone every day. IMO, incremental steps forward are better than no steps. The alternative may be that the steps go in the wrong direction.

We tend to give up our liberty incrementally. It's realistic to get them back the same way.

I see what you mean about getting them back incrementally, but it's fundamentally different when you're creating a class of "super-citizens" out of government actors. Remember, it's .gov that takes our liberties; returning those liberties to them, but not us, is a fundamental injustice that does nothing to further the cause of returning freedom to "we the people." If anything, it tends to reinforce the notion that they are our betters, and we should just deal with it.

 

[Poke78]

I see what you mean about getting them back incrementally, but it's fundamentally different when you're creating a class of "super-citizens" out of government actors. Remember, it's .gov that takes our liberties; returning those liberties to them, but not us, is a fundamental injustice that does nothing to further the cause of returning freedom to "we the people." If anything, it tends to reinforce the notion that they are our betters, and we should just deal with it.

QFT!! Well said!! DITTO - especially the final sentence!

 

[Jack T.]

And the "news" article doesn't even have a bill number in it. . .HB1104, if you need to contact your Senator to support/oppose it.

I let my Senator know I was opposed to this, for the reasons many here already outlined.

 

[austin.brown]

http://www.oklegislature.gov/FindMyLegislature.aspx

.gov website to find your legislature.

 

[Fredkrueger100]

This bill is pure bs. Just shows what the elected officials think of themselves. Feels great being a peon.