Challenge to Gun Control Advocates

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okietom

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This will be interesting. I honestly hope we get some takers who are willing to bring forth a real discussion based in fact. We will see...

There are no good reasons based on fact to support gun control. Only some one using emotion will argue for gun control. The fact that they will only use emotion is why there never is any real discussion.
 

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There are no good reasons based on fact to support gun control. Only some one using emotion will argue for gun control. The fact that they will only use emotion is why there never is any real discussion.

Before you can have a discussion about "gun control" you have to define what it means (at least in the context of the discussion). I do not want guns in the hands of violent felons or a person that's been adjudicated as mental ill. Does that mean I'm pro gun control? If I'm in favor of UBC, is that gun control. Or is gun control the desire to ban all private gun ownership? The problem I see in most discussions is that "gun nuts" (which would include me) are portrayed as believing that there should be no restrictions on gun ownership. Everyone should be able to own any weapon they want. And any one that is for any form of gun control is a "gun grabber" who wants to disarm all Americans. When these two groups meet, there cannot be any (civil) discussions.
 

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Before you can have a discussion about "gun control" you have to define what it means (at least in the context of the discussion). I do not want guns in the hands of violent felons or a person that's been adjudicated as mental ill. Does that mean I'm pro gun control? If I'm in favor of UBC, is that gun control. Or is gun control the desire to ban all private gun ownership? The problem I see in most discussions is that "gun nuts" (which would include me) are portrayed as believing that there should be no restrictions on gun ownership. Everyone should be able to own any weapon they want. And any one that is for any form of gun control is a "gun grabber" who wants to disarm all Americans. When these two groups meet, there cannot be any (civil) discussions.

A civil discussion is not dependent upon the opposing arguments but upon the individuals respecting the right of the other to have a different view.
 

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Before you can have a discussion about "gun control" you have to define what it means (at least in the context of the discussion). I do not want guns in the hands of violent felons or a person that's been adjudicated as mental ill. Does that mean I'm pro gun control? If I'm in favor of UBC, is that gun control. Or is gun control the desire to ban all private gun ownership? The problem I see in most discussions is that "gun nuts" (which would include me) are portrayed as believing that there should be no restrictions on gun ownership. Everyone should be able to own any weapon they want. And any one that is for any form of gun control is a "gun grabber" who wants to disarm all Americans. When these two groups meet, there cannot be any (civil) discussions.

A civil discussion is not dependent upon the opposing arguments but upon the individuals respecting the right of the other to have a different view.

Amen, Uncle. But Ace is right. Defining what you mean when you say "pro gun" is important. I bet no two people here have exactly the same definition of what that means, and that makes it really hard to have a useful discussion.
 

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A civil discussion is not dependent upon the opposing arguments but upon the individuals respecting the right of the other to have a different view.

This is a good point. But folks, the lurkers aren't here to communicate with us but to study us like lab specimens. You really expect the folks at Langly, or Quauntico to get all kissy face with us?

Those guys are just studying us. Watch What you say. A sick bastard got convicted of conspiracy to eat people the other day who had never really eaten anyone.
 

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Amen, Uncle. But Ace is right. Defining what you mean when you say "pro gun" is important. I bet no two people here have exactly the same definition of what that means, and that makes it really hard to have a useful discussion.

Animal Farm?/?...is that the one with Charlotte ,the pig


.I believe Everyone should be issued a rifle and a handgun in high school, along with a class on how to handle , shoot, clean.

.If you loose those weapons, you go to the "island"....the Rest will sort itself out.! . ;)
 

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