Get the word out! Vote Mary Fallin

[JB Books]

We all do but that person isn't Askins. You can call her a conservative until the sun goes down but that won't make any more so than calling a turd a rose.

Classy wolfie, very classy.

 

[Werewolf]

Classy wolfie, very classy.

Short, sweet and right to the point is usually my goal (not always - I can be as long winded as the best of you).

However, that style rarely lends itself to what one would call classy.

Truth on the other hand rarely takes many words.

 

[inactive]

I will borrow my own comments from another thread about Fallin (though they are nothing supporting or opposing her personally)

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"Conservative" is not necessarily the same as a laissez faire, smaller government approach.

Conservative politics and judicial process have brought us government wiretaps (Olmstead v USA, USA PATRIOT Act), watered down 2nd Amendment court rulings (Heller, McDonald), deficit spending (Reagan budget, Bush budget), military conflicts with seemingly no purpose or end (Iraq, Afghanistan).

This is not to say that Liberal political thought has not committed the same offenses. This post is not to criticize a particular candidate, or even a particular political party or school of thought. I could list multiple injustices and inhumunaities that Liberal politics and thought have brought us (Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, FDR and LBJ budgets, opposition to civil rights acts, etc.) but I will omit that commentary them to keep this brief.

This post is meant to criticize partisan politics, and the general notion that most Americans have embraced the notion of selecting a candidate based on one particular issue, or party affiliation.

Labels such as Liberal or Conservative, Republican or Democrat, Statist or Anarchist, Socialist or Capitalist; those mean little to me. I cannot be painted with any one of those brushes as my ideology varies from issue to issue. I do my best to think independently on each topic and come to my own conclusions.

Please consider the totality of your candidate and his or her platform, and the implications those may have if he or she is in office. Do not become polarized or blinded by one particular issue. You candidate's stances or convictions on the smallest of issues, however seemingly slight or inconsequential, may well have a lasting impact on all of us.

We may have to compromise when selecting a candidate; ballot access should be the number one issue of any person who believes we are to remain a free and self-governing nation. Why should we possibly limit our own options when it comes to selecting the leadership of our country? Even given the other controls of the US political system (Electoral College, two houses of Congress, Judicial process, Executive Veto power, Constitutional Amendment process, etc.), we felt that limiting the pool of potential elected officials in most states was a good idea? Of course neither of the two dominant will support this, and we continue to let it happen! We should all be ashamed!

 

[Nraman]

we felt that limiting the pool of potential elected officials in most states was a good idea? Of course neither of the two dominant will support this, and we continue to let it happen! We should all be ashamed!

The two party system is the result of the constitutional requirement for a minimum number of electors to elect a President.
Three or more parties can split the vote to the point that the House elects the President. The Libertarian party is the only other party that exists today and they are not able to appeal to a broad section of the population, they tend to be on the extreme side on the issues.
I personally think that the biggest problem we are facing is a poorly educated voting public that votes according to the commercials they see, which means that every candidate has to raise large sums of money, which means that payback for the money is a bitch and they are not working for us.

 

[338Shooter]

My opinions are stated in the 2A forum, but Fallin is out for voting for the bailout. Plain and simple.

Askins would have voted no for the bailout given the chance? Riiiiiiiiiigt.

 

[pistolpete62]

http://newsok.com/gubernatorial-candidate-qa-with-oklahoma-lt.-gov.-jari-askins/article/3479403

Interview with Jari Askins from July.

"Are present Oklahoma gun laws too restrictive, not restrictive enough, about right? Any changes needed?

I am a very strong supporter of the Second Amendment and believe in the right of law abiding citizens to protect themselves. I will oppose restrictions on a citizen's right to bear arms."

Check her out! I think you will find that she cast a vote against concealed carry when she was in the Oklahoma House of Representatives. Doesn't sound like a "very strong supporter of the Second Amendment" to me.

 

[Werewolf]

Askins would have voted no for the bailout given the chance? Riiiiiiiiiigt.

^^^^^^^
THIS!

 

[Rajder]

I personally think that the biggest problem we are facing is a poorly educated voting public that votes according to the commercials they see, which means that every candidate has to raise large sums of money, which means that payback for the money is a bitch and they are not working for us.

I agree 100%. I would agree with making "campaigning" just a series of 100% publicly funded televised debates and completely do away with the campaign fundraising (I think England has a system like that???). As it stands now the person with the most money always wins. So in order to get into a high position in the government a candidate basically has to sell his soul to raise the money to get to that position. After that they are no longer working for the people.

 

[Nraman]

I agree 100%. I would agree with making "campaigning" just a series of 100% publicly funded televised debates and completely do away with the campaign fundraising (I think England has a system like that???). As it stands now the person with the most money always wins. So in order to get into a high position in the government a candidate basically has to sell his soul to raise the money to get to that position. After that they are no longer working for the people.

The airwaves are government owned. It is possible to demand public air time from the broadcasters as payment for being allowed to use the channels.

 

[Nraman]

Check her out! I think you will find that she cast a vote against concealed carry when she was in the Oklahoma House of Representatives. Doesn't sound like a "very strong supporter of the Second Amendment" to me.

It was a very political answer that IMHO meant nothing.