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If you are worried about tax consequences, you can open a self directed Roth IRA and max out your contributions. Then put the excess funds in a second account. You can move over the maximum amount every year. While this may not seem like much, it adds up over time.

I am worried about taxes, thanks for the tip.
 

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please help me understand buying stock on margin...

Stock "X" is $100 per share. I buy 10 shares using margin (which has an interest rate of 8%) for $1000. Meaning I now owe the broker $80 to be paid back I'm guessing when the stock sells?

So, as a day trader, I would need the price of the stock to swing upward more than $85 (including transaction fee) in order to make any money at all on the trade?

I know in order to be a PDT you must have a minimum of $25k in your account, and really you need a lot more due to free ride regulations (that also sucks). So say I have $30k cash in my account (not using margin). I can only buy and sell $5k worth of stock before I have to wait the 3 business days for funds to settle?

Ive gotten to where I am by not taking loans and by not using credit cards so that margin interest rate of 8%, if I am understanding it correctly, is garbage. Ive been paper trading, making $50 here, $75 there...thinking I'm doing good and damned if that aint even enough to cover my interest rate.

I'm starting to see why "The easiest way to make a small fortune day trading is to start with a large fortune."
 

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Have you looked into forex trading? I have just started researching it, but it seems like it might be a bit easier to get started in than the stock market.
 

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please help me understand buying stock on margin...

Stock "X" is $100 per share. I buy 10 shares using margin (which has an interest rate of 8%) for $1000. Meaning I now owe the broker $80 to be paid back I'm guessing when the stock sells?

So, as a day trader, I would need the price of the stock to swing upward more than $85 (including transaction fee) in order to make any money at all on the trade?

I know in order to be a PDT you must have a minimum of $25k in your account, and really you need a lot more due to free ride regulations (that also sucks). So say I have $30k cash in my account (not using margin). I can only buy and sell $5k worth of stock before I have to wait the 3 business days for funds to settle?

Ive gotten to where I am by not taking loans and by not using credit cards so that margin interest rate of 8%, if I am understanding it correctly, is garbage. Ive been paper trading, making $50 here, $75 there...thinking I'm doing good and damned if that aint even enough to cover my interest rate.

I'm starting to see why "The easiest way to make a small fortune day trading is to start with a large fortune."

Margin is using the value of existing securities to expand your purchasing power.

After the last dip in Apple I have a good number of shares I purchased on margin when it dropped below $90 last Thursday. I didn't have the free cash to make the purchase, but I had the margin capabilities of existing stocks/funds.

I can sell today for almost a 4% gain, not bad for 4 days, I'll hold out a little longer, but the interest is adding up daily so I need to balance interest charged versus profit.
 

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Just an FYI, and you must make your own decisions, Target, and WalMart are getting hit hard today. If you are a bad news buyer, this might be an opportunity...
 

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