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benjamin-benjamin

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You clearly don't have any employees of your own. I've owned my own business for close to 10 years and have averaged over 100 employees at a time during that period. The American work ethic is crap. I can't even begin to count the number of able bodied employees who don't show up to work and come in the next day wanting a letter for DHS stating that they no longer work there so they can start receiving benefits. It literally happens every single week.

I don't knowingly hire illegals and less than 10% of my work force is hispanic. I've never once paid anyone under the table. I do all the required new hire reporting and immediately terminate anyone who's social comes back as invalid. I say all that to say this, in 10 years of business I have never had a single employee whose native language is Spanish request any documentation for DHS benefits or file for unemployment. They generally have a much stronger work ethic than those born here as well. Although my workforce may only be 10% hispanic, if I were to rate my employees, hispanics would make up half of the top 10%. I have several employees who work 75+ hrs every week between two different jobs and never complain or slack off. I have nothing but respect for them.

My opinions are grounded in real life experience, not internet chain letters or right wing hyperbole. I am as conservative as most Oklahomans. I am disgusted on a daily basis with elements of our society. I have a strong background in business, economics and finance. I have a good basic understanding of how our economy works. I'm telling you right now, you are missing the real issue. Illegal immigration is an issue and it needs to be addressed. However, it is not bringing our economy down or impacting your way of life. If our economy crashes, and it very well may, a citizenry who is fiscally irresponsible and government spending and entitlements will be to blame, not illegal immigrants.

wow, that type of logic is not welcome here...

reminds me of....
http://www.theatlantic.com/business...w-costs-millions-in-unharvested-crops/240774/
 

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You clearly don't have any employees of your own. I've owned my own business for close to 10 years and have averaged over 100 employees at a time during that period. The American work ethic is crap. I can't even begin to count the number of able bodied employees who don't show up to work and come in the next day wanting a letter for DHS stating that they no longer work there so they can start receiving benefits. It literally happens every single week.

I don't knowingly hire illegals and less than 10% of my work force is hispanic. I've never once paid anyone under the table. I do all the required new hire reporting and immediately terminate anyone who's social comes back as invalid. I say all that to say this, in 10 years of business I have never had a single employee whose native language is Spanish request any documentation for DHS benefits or file for unemployment. They generally have a much stronger work ethic than those born here as well. Although my workforce may only be 10% hispanic, if I were to rate my employees, hispanics would make up half of the top 10%. I have several employees who work 75+ hrs every week between two different jobs and never complain or slack off. I have nothing but respect for them.

My opinions are grounded in real life experience, not internet chain letters or right wing hyperbole. I am as conservative as most Oklahomans. I am disgusted on a daily basis with elements of our society. I have a strong background in business, economics and finance. I have a good basic understanding of how our economy works. I'm telling you right now, you are missing the real issue. Illegal immigration is an issue and it needs to be addressed. However, it is not bringing our economy down or impacting your way of life. If our economy crashes, and it very well may, a citizenry who is fiscally irresponsible and government spending and entitlements will be to blame, not illegal immigrants.

Very well said. Dont be surprised that a few will label you as a Liberal or question your conservative values.
 

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why cant people see that americans are lazy... And corporations dont want to pay but minimum wage... Most places only hire part time to skip out on benefits. Most americans would not work their butt off for ten or twelve dollars an hour. Its simply more cost effective to get twice as much work done at half the cost by hiring illegals. If it wasnt for these people alot of americas infrastructures would struggle to exsist. People forget all of texas and parts of oklahoma, kansas, colorado etc were mexico at one point so technically this land is their land.
 

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And corporations dont want to pay but minimum wage...

If its a high turnover industry like retail, then yes, that's true and prudent.

If its a highly skilled or specialized industry, then that is nowhere near true.



Most places only hire part time to skip out on benefits.

Which benefits, specifically, are you referring to?
 

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If its a high turnover industry like retail, then yes, that's true and prudent.

If its a highly skilled or specialized industry, then that is nowhere near true.






Which benefits, specifically, are you referring to?

well retail, food industry, construction yes ... I guess u are right about skilled and specialized to an extent....
I was a manual lathe operator/ manufacturing technician/ Seal, pump, motor tester for Borets Weathford at one time which is a Huge global company and they only wanted to pay me 12 an hour so...
Also worked in the automotive industry as a technician not much money there either compared to what the dealership/shop makes both of these jobs are specialized i would say

Benefits such as health insurance and life insurance basic stuff
 

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