Oklahoma explores program to charge drivers per mile

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Since some of y'all apparently have no idea, plug in hybrid cars (gas engine and electric battery) pay an $86 tax added on to their registration. You pay that whether you charge it or not, it's not optional for all these "free ride" electric cars. And plug-in hybrids are still paying that fuel tax too.....
I am unsure if full electric cars pay that tax to Oklahoma, but I am fairly sure that Oklahoma is one of very few, if not the only, state that taxes/fines electric cars. How many states have huge tax rebates for electric owners instead?
To further the specifics, how bout a Ford Fusion Hybrid I can see from my house. I know for a fact that car gets about 36 MPG without plugging it in, because of the regenerative braking that charges the battery every time you stop. However, Ford has recalled the charging capability, so it shouldn't be plugged in at all. And since Ford has absolutely no fix in the works for that, any Ford using that setup still has to pay the $86 tax, and now pay the added fuel taxes from their lost MPGs.


Edit to add, the mileage tax wouldn't affect me and my truck very much, I only drive about 1400 miles a year, at about 14MPG.

But commuters that travel 30+ miles across the metro to work, it's gotta suck.

I'm against the mileage tax, but I'm also against the fuel tax already in place.


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I know all of this because my wife wants a 2024/2025 Kia Sorento Plug-in Hybrid. Oklahoma (across EVERY Kia dealership combined) averages two a month for sale, total. Yet the 4 or 5 Kia dealers in Denver have an average of 14 each, per day on their lots for sale, and they are extremely hot sellers.
She keeps talking about spending a weekend in Denver car shopping.
 
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First of all, doesn't Oklahoma have a requirement that new taxes must be voted on by the populace?

Secondly, since my wife and I do a lot of traveling, would we still have to pay for miles driven in other states?

Thirdly, I was thinking that Washington state and Oregon had also considered taxing mileage, but I don't know that they ever got that accomplished. I'm also not sure it could happen in Oklahoma either.
 
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First thought - How would they handle all the tractor trailers driving through the state and all the out of state drivers using the roads? I’m pretty sure they could not enforce this requirement on out of state drivers.

Second thought - there has been a budget surplus which is where we got relief on groceries. It sounds like ODOT needs some of this budget surplus instead of creating a new way to generate more revenue.
 

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First thought - How would they handle all the tractor trailers driving through the state and all the out of state drivers using the roads? I’m pretty sure they could not enforce this requirement on out of state drivers.

Second thought - there has been a budget surplus which is where we got relief on groceries. It sounds like ODOT needs some of this budget surplus instead of creating a new way to generate more revenue.

The state only wants to tax residents, or those with vehicles tagged in oklahoma.
 

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I dislike the fact that electric vehicle owners basically get a free ride. Make them pay something equitable and don't put an extra burden on the rest of us with some mileage tax.
I dislike taxes, but the roads have to be maintained, so there has to be a way to make the electrics pull their share of the load. Maybe you just tax them at the charger like we do at the gas pump…
 

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It would be in addition, I have never known a politician or the .gov to do away with a tax.
Yeah, once the gov’t starts milking a teat, it just gets more hands to milk more teats, it never turns loose of the ones it already has. Just look at all those “temporary” sales taxes like MAPS that’s coming up on 40 years now.
 
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First thought - How would they handle all the tractor trailers driving through the state and all the out of state drivers using the roads? I’m pretty sure they could not enforce this requirement on out of state drivers.
They already tax them. Truckers file a Fuel report monthly with total mile drove in each state.
Electronic Log Device on every long haul Tractor (Truck)
 

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Some people are unable to itemize because they don't have enough deductions. Luckily I'm able to itemize. My question is, can I deduct the fuel tax for non-public road use items? Right now, the state roads are benefiting every time I fire up carbon consuming equipment that never touches asphalt. This might sound petty to the tax collector but my pennies add up like theirs. It begins with my dual fuel lantern, progresses to the 4-wheeler, the chain saw, the lawn mower and the literal gas lighting of others. Should this not be deductable? The government should be held liable for non-diversity of fuel usage, inequality of consumer uses and improper taxation and inclusive bias practices.
 

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