Oklahoma explores program to charge drivers per mile

[SoonerP226]

Disagree, based on what those taxes are targeted for. It certainly not for transportation as a user fee for said roads. Current taxes on tires are for cost of disposal only. Name another.

You said:

Can't put a state tax on a retail item.

which is demonstrably incorrect. What the money is used for is irrelevant; the fact is that the state already has taxes on retail items, which is also demonstrated by the fact that they eliminated the state sales tax on groceries—if they couldn’t put a sales tax on retail items (groceries), then they wouldn’t be able to eliminate it, either.

Putting a tax on tires to support road construction and maintenance may or may not be a good idea, but the fact is that the state could do it if they chose to do so.

 

[CHenry]

You said:

which is demonstrably incorrect. What the money is used for is irrelevant; the fact is that the state already has taxes on retail items, which is also demonstrated by the fact that they eliminated the state sales tax on groceries—if they couldn’t put a sales tax on retail items (groceries), then they wouldn’t be able to eliminate it, either.

Putting a tax on tires to support road construction and maintenance may or may not be a good idea, but the fact is that the state could do it if they chose to do so.

No, if the voters chose it, and only under that circumstance.
I'm more aware of what goes to transportation than I care to talk about and what your stating isn't reality...completely.

 

[CHenry]

You said:

which is demonstrably incorrect. What the money is used for is irrelevant; the fact is that the state already has taxes on retail items, which is also demonstrated by the fact that they eliminated the state sales tax on groceries—if they couldn’t put a sales tax on retail items (groceries), then they wouldn’t be able to eliminate it, either.

Putting a tax on tires to support road construction and maintenance may or may not be a good idea, but the fact is that the state could do it if they chose to do so.

Grocery taxes are a whole other animal, largely imported and the tax spilled over to unimportant foods through loopholes. Where does that money go? It's not transportation unless the legislators give it. It mostly goes to the main budget and rest goes to the general fund.

 

[rickm]

Disagree, based on what those taxes are targeted for. It certainly not for transportation as a user fee for said roads. Current taxes on tires are for cost of disposal only. Name another.

Then why do they charge a tire disposal fee when you register a out of state purchase of a vehicle and then another fee when you buy new tires.

 

[Dorkus]

how about a tax on tires instead, the more you drive the faster they wear out, i heard don't know if true but EV's are heavier a wear out tires faster. even though i still don't want to pay more taxes!

My insane son has a Tesla and he has to buy new tires every 10,000 miles. That is what they told him anyway but he has not put that many miles on it yet.

 

[SoonerP226]

No, if the voters chose it, and only under that circumstance.
I'm more aware of what goes to transportation than I care to talk about and what your stating isn't reality...completely.

What you know about transportation isn’t really germane to this discussion. Again, what you said was this:

Can't put a state tax on a retail item.

but the state not only can, but does levy taxes on retail items all the time. There is nothing stopping the state of Oklahoma from attaching fees or taxes to the sales of tires within the state of Oklahoma to fund highway maintenance (which is what was proposed in the message to which you responded).

If you were trying to say that ODOT is not able to add taxes or fees on retail sales, that’s probably true, but the original proposition wasn’t restricted to ODOT’s ability to fund itself. The state chose ODOT’s methods of funding, so the state can change those methods whenever it wants. It may take an act of the legislature or an amendment to the state constitution, but the state can do it.

 

[Thatoneokieguy]

2 things everyone must remember.

1: our dollar is taxed so much that by the time we receive what we spent it on, it's worth less than 20 cents.

2: we already carry a full time gps locator in our pockets everyday

Now the question. Were we ever a free nation? Not in my lifetime here.

 

[Bad Hombre]

So, would this program replace the fuel tax or be in addition to fuel tax?

I don't really have a clue, but I would be willing to bet a lot of money that it would be in addition to the fuel tax....

 

[Arnie]

Are they going to subtract miles driven in other states?

 

[rickm]

Well they will go broke if my math is correct for me i figure $30 to 40 a year