The GOP did not attack women's rights at all. That was an argument that was fabricated by the democrats because Obama could not run on his record, you know, because he is a dismal failure and a liar. In fact, while Obama offered free birth control and abortions the GOP offered more jobs and higher pay. As far a the so called attacks on women's right by the GOP, they only said that taxpayers should not be forced to pay for the birth control or abortions of other people. Imagine that, somebody expects people to do something for themselves around here.
Now, lets have a civil discussion about what the GOP needs to do
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The GOP did not attack women's rights at all. That was an argument that was fabricated by the democrats because Obama could not run on his record, you know, because he is a dismal failure and a liar. In fact, while Obama offered free birth control and abortions the GOP offered more jobs and higher pay. As far a the so called attacks on women's right by the GOP, they only said that taxpayers should not be forced to pay for the birth control or abortions of other people. Imagine that, somebody expects people to do something for themselves around here.
Sorry I only made it to the .31 sec mark, Carry on
The GOP will never get it. One only has to look at the likes of Gingrich and Rove being SO wrong and not recognizing where they screwed up. 
Except that it was more complicated than that. Fluke's request for contraception was in the context that insurance people receive through their employer, as a benefit or by paying the group rate, should not exclude contraception even if the religious nature of the organization disapproves of it. My insurance which covers my wife pays for hers, but I don't think of it as "free" as I and my employer are paying a damn premium to cover these expenses. From an insurance perspective, "Free" is a bit of a misnomer in all of this. "Included" would be a better term.
The idea that someone else should buy her birth control was not even part of the argument until the radio host made his infamous, out of context gaffe. To this point, I think the employers should be able to include that if they want; it's they're prerogative. Employees can seek work or benefits elsewhere if they disagree.
That said, to say that somehow society on the whole is going to see that individual expense as an entitlement is unfair, as the employees and/or employer are paying for the insurance premium. From a cost stand point, insurers will sure as shinola cover (or even absorb, if they cannot charge explicitly different premiums for including it) contraception as it's much cheaper than the costs of birth and health care for infants. The only objection to their paying was the ethical concerns of the groups involved. The GOP pundit tried to make a moocher argument when there was none. Make it a religious rights argument if you feel it's worthy of arguing at all. Like g2g said, they don't get it.
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How dare you try to use logic in an emotion based argument! That's like saying Medicare and Social Security aren't free because employees have wages deducted to apply towards those programs. Heretic!!!
The rut is in full swing right now, at least where I hunt.
The right is in full disarray, as shown by all the thoughtful and civil discussion in this thread that I read before I came back to this one most useful post.
Leaving early Friday with enough stuff for several days!
Good luck man! Wish I was going with you.
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