I'm just wondering about the legality of carrying in banks. We all encourage it.
There is no statute prohibiting CCW in banks. Nothing to wonder about, if bank management has not posted a gun buster sign you are GTG
Unless it is prohibited by state or federal statute, you would commit no crime in concealed carrying in those private establishment which prohibit conceal carry. But, you could be asked to leave the premises if they found out you were carrying.
my $0.02
Bill
my $0.02
Bill
Midfirst Bank at Reno and Portland in Oklahoma City and the branch in Mustang are posted "No Weapons." I think is may be corporate policy and all branches are posted. A grocery store owner in Mustang got the letter a few years ago and took his sign down.
Trespass is covered in Title 21, Section 1835 of OK code, not in the SDA.
Simple trespass on posted private property carries a penalty up to $250. If done, "Disturbing the Peace" or "Destruction of property" can possibly add some jail time.
The part about individual notification and permanent prohibition is in Section 1835.1 and is usually used against shoplifters or vandals that have been caught.
I don't have any argument for people who make the personal decision to value their safety over the (small) risk of a fine. That is each person's decision to make.
However, what purpose does to serve to keep erroneously repeating "they can only ask you to leave?"
Dear Owner/Manager,
I recently attempted to enter your business for the intent of making a purchase. As I approached the door, I noticed a signed that read No Firearms Allowed. I respected your wishes, but thought if fair that you understand more of the story.
I am a law abiding citizen of the United States of America. As such, I have passed a background check and obtained a license from the state to carry a concealed weapon. By carry a concealed weapon into your business I would not have been a threat to you or your customers. In fact, by the very concealment of the weapon, neither you nor your other customers would have known. If, on the other hand, I were a criminal - your sign would have done nothing to preventing me from entering.
I do respect your personal property rights and was only slightly inconvenienced to take my business to your competition. I hope you realize, regardless of your intentions, that you have banned law abiding citizens exercising a constitutional right and at the same time, serviced notice to criminal elements that they have less chance of meeting resistance in your business than any other.
I recently attempted to enter your business for the intent of making a purchase. As I approached the door, I noticed a signed that read No Firearms Allowed. I respected your wishes, but thought if fair that you understand more of the story.
I am a law abiding citizen of the United States of America. As such, I have passed a background check and obtained a license from the state to carry a concealed weapon. By carry a concealed weapon into your business I would not have been a threat to you or your customers. In fact, by the very concealment of the weapon, neither you nor your other customers would have known. If, on the other hand, I were a criminal - your sign would have done nothing to preventing me from entering.
I do respect your personal property rights and was only slightly inconvenienced to take my business to your competition. I hope you realize, regardless of your intentions, that you have banned law abiding citizens exercising a constitutional right and at the same time, serviced notice to criminal elements that they have less chance of meeting resistance in your business than any other.
When visiting some restaurants in Texas they have signs posted CCW only and they post the Title and law if you carry and you don't have one.
Maybe some businesses would change there signs if they have a alt sign like CCW carrying only.
ya what about liquor stores
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