Neat how the Burn is able to tax the fuxk out of those at the low income level. David Boren has his eyes set on the same group.
Neat how the Burn is able to tax the fuxk out of those at the low income level. David Boren has his eyes set on the same group.
Which income level, and which taxes? What are you talking about? Please be specific.
Look at the chart you posted.
My bad, maybe the farmer posted it.
Your attempt to discredit the information in the graph centered on an agenda against Bernie. Given the source of the information is from one of the biggest Bernie cheerleader news sources, your argument is utter nonsense.
The reason no one buys the bull$hit "big govt saves you money" line is because we have all been burned time and time again when big govt tries to "fix" things. Obamacare was supposed to save everyone money too. The reality is that there is no free lunch and costs run higher than projected while revenues run lower than projected. I'd just assume the govt stop trying to "fix" **** and leave people alone.
Agreed, but you didn't post your source documents for disagreeing with SMS's assertion.
But let's take what you agree with and dissect it. Bernie says it will only be $1.61 per week for the "typical American worker" to get 12 weeks of paid FML. WOW! That's awesome and you wouldn't mind paying $1.61 per week for that, right! Except you won't be paying $1.61 per week. First, you're not a typical America worker. Most American workers aren't. That $1.61 is based on a median wage, not an actual wage. Second, who says liberal Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's math checked out? After all, it's based on the SSA operating a Trust to cover these costs. Since when has the SSA operated in the black? What APY is her estimate based on? What happens to that Trust when a worker who has paid the max of $5.08 per week, takes 12 weeks of paid leave at a rate of $1,915.00 per week, because they make $100K per year? After all, they only paid $264.16 into the Trust for an entire year, but theyre taking out $22,980! If the Trust operates at a 10% APY per year, for say 5 years, its turned that initial $264.16 into about $425.00 or so. How many times does $22,980 go into $425?
So thats an atypical scenario. Lets take someone making $15K per year and only paying $1.61 per week. Thats still $3,480 out of about $135. Im sure youll say that all those people who never take the leave will cover the shortage. Well let me ask you, have you ever known many people who pay into a savings account that will NEVER take from it? Because if you tell people that theyre paying for 12 weeks of paid leave per year, theyre going to want to take 12 weeks of paid leave per year at a much higher rate, than those who are willing to take 12 weeks of UNPAID leave. Seriously, youre going to create an entire cottage industry around justifying FML leave requests, which will of course necessitate paying medical claims to support.
Sorry, but the math doesnt add up. You WANT to believe it does, but it doesnt. Now take that conundrum and apply it to all of Bernies other proposals. Unintended consequences, he has them
incomes of 118,500 to 231,450 seems to be the sweet spot for Bernie.
Digging into the mechanics is not difficult. It's not complex. It tax and spend economics in hyperdrive. It is wealth redistribution and a massive expansion of the role of the federal government beyond the scope of its creation.
We don't have to dig down into the numbers. The numbers are always wrong...in the wrong direction as a mentioned earlier.
We don't need more taxes, we need less. We don't need more spending, we need less. We don't need more government services, we need less. Everything Bernie stands for is the exact opposite of that. It's that simple...a simple argument isn't wrong. A simple argument can be very serious...
We don't have to dig down into the numbers. The numbers are always wrong...in the wrong direction as a mentioned earlier.
We don't need more taxes, we need less. We don't need more spending, we need less. We don't need more government services, we need less. Everything Bernie stands for is the exact opposite of that. It's that simple...a simple argument isn't wrong. A simple argument can be very serious...
Cool. Show us which which aspect of my argument is nonsense. That is, show us which of Bernie's proposals is accurately reflected in the graph.
That chart doesn't accurately reflect Bernie's tax plans, so we'll have to move away from that to get anywhere on the issue.
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