Timothy Harper arrested..... finally! Idiot.

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CHenry

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You don't seem to understand that the full term of punishment for the crime committed includes the prohibition of firearms. Now, if you don't think that is right, your recourse id s to work to change that law. Until then, that is the consequence of the crime committed, and the individual agreed to those conditions by knowingly committing that crime, knowing the full extent of the penalties associated with that crime. You and I didn't force them to commit a crime, they chose to do so. Yes, I'm okay with the current law.
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Fear of guns is deeply ingrained in some of y'all. You seem to be OK that felons (who by your own estimation aren't to be trusted with a gun) be in public with your children,as long as they don't have a gun. They can carry sticks, knives, needles, TB and STD's, but not a gun. You're a bunch of closet liberals. Nanny state endorsers. Lunch ladies screaming, "he can't have a gun - I'm skeered".

THE evil in this world is the lack of minding one's own business. It's what governments use to control you and steal your ****.

Love how when someone presents an argument that runs counter to some people's ideals, they start with the insults. I have 0 fear of firearms. None. Zip. Zilch. What I fear is what criminals do when they get their hands on them. Yes, a felon can get a firearm if they try hard enough. Does that mean I want it to be easier for them to do so? Hell no! And if I had children who were not old enough to carry a firearm themselves, guess who would be with them in public? Me, and my firearm.

Non-violent felons can have their 2A rights restored. Its a process, yes, but it has and can be done. Violent offenders should never have those rights restored. And there is nothing you can say that would change my mind on that. First off, how can you prove someone would no longer be a threat? We still do not have the technology to read a person's mind, so there is no way to prove one way or the other. So we either keep every single criminal locked up for life or we release them but have restrictions like no firearms.

If you feel certain crimes should not be felonies, petition your local, state and federal reps and let them know. Until such time the saying "Do the crime, do the time" holds true.
 

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Love how when someone presents an argument that runs counter to some people's ideals, they start with the insults. I have 0 fear of firearms. None. Zip. Zilch. What I fear is what criminals do when they get their hands on them. Yes, a felon can get a firearm if they try hard enough. Does that mean I want it to be easier for them to do so? Hell no! And if I had children who were not old enough to carry a firearm themselves, guess who would be with them in public? Me, and my firearm.

Non-violent felons can have their 2A rights restored. Its a process, yes, but it has and can be done. Violent offenders should never have those rights restored. And there is nothing you can say that would change my mind on that. First off, how can you prove someone would no longer be a threat? We still do not have the technology to read a person's mind, so there is no way to prove one way or the other. So we either keep every single criminal locked up for life or we release them but have restrictions like no firearms.

If you feel certain crimes should not be felonies, petition your local, state and federal reps and let them know. Until such time the saying "Do the crime, do the time" holds true.
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Fear of guns is deeply ingrained in some of y'all. You seem to be OK that felons (who by your own estimation aren't to be trusted with a gun) be in public with your children,as long as they don't have a gun. They can carry sticks, knives, needles, TB and STD's, but not a gun. You're a bunch of closet liberals. Nanny state endorsers. Lunch ladies screaming, "he can't have a gun - I'm skeered".

THE evil in this world is the lack of minding one's own business. It's what governments use to control you and steal your ****.

And here comes the name calling because of disagreements on a gun forum. If the existing law prohibits ownership or possession of a firearm is after a felony conviction. Actually, I’m in favor of extermination of of the felon by the victim at the scene of the crime. If we aren’t fortunate enough to have that happen then they should lose all rights as stated by the law. Don’t like the law, vote in someone who will change it. What scares me isn’t felons, it’s people are allowed to voice such a ridiculous opinion and think others should actually care what they think.


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A felon's access to legal firearms has nothing to do with whether they're dangerous or not. If they're dangerous, a gun doesn't make them more dangerous. If they're not dangerous, well, they're not dangerous. You're just extra special scared of the gun, as opposed to the myriad of other means that dangerous individual has to harm you and yours. Kinda like a liberal lunch lady.
 

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Wow! There are laws on the books that keep felons from having guns?? Who knew??? Certainly not the newspaper writers--every day there is mention in the paper of some guy charged as a "felon in possession". But since laws keep felons from possessing, how is that even possible?? Some wise guy can probably explain it....
 
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If they're dangerous, a gun doesn't make them more dangerous.

Um, yeah. Because a dangerous criminal with a baseball bat is able to kill me with one swing 10 feet away from me...

That has to be the most absurd argument I've read yet, not to mention pure fantasy. It is not the firearm that I and others have a problem with, its the fact the criminal has one after being convicted for the same or similar crimes.
 

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So, that guy who got a felony conviction for writing a hot check deserves to lose his rights forever?

is writing a hot check a felony? Then YES!

Allow me to elaborate a bit on this one. Generally speaking, one doesn't get a felony charge on hot checks until they have been arrested, charged, and convicted of a number of instances of passing a hot check. I'd have to look it up again, but I don't think one can get a felony charge otherwise except by perhaps writing a hot check for a very large amount.

In my years of working with criminal records in Oklahoma, I don't recall seeing very many felony cases of hot checks. On the other hand, there were LOTS of felony charges of DUI and Possession of Controlled Drugs that were charged as felonies after having been convicted of misdemeanor counts of the same charges.
 

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