Why "Entry Level",,, Why not just "Go for It"?

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aarondhgraham

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I just read all the posts in a thread where a person asked,,,
"What is a good "Entry Level" rifle for (insert your shooting sport here).

Okay, when I got back into shooting I did the entry level single-shot rifle thing,,,
It wasn't long (or maybe it was) before I outgrew that rifle.

Then I started creeping up the ladder of quality rifles,,,
That was the point that I should have bought the absolute best I could afford.

Man did I spend a lot of money on rifles,,,
That I knew I was going to eventually replace.

What I mean by outgrew is that I reached it's limit,,,
I found that I had improved in my trigger technique enough that,,,
I couldn't improve the tightness of my groups past what the rifle was capable of.

I have often wondered if I would have been better off (or at least as well off),,,
If I would have just bought the finer rifles in the first place.

Financially I would have spent a lot less money in the long run,,,
I'm wondering if "creeping up on the quality" was actually the wise thing.

After all,,,
One can learn to shoot just as well,,,
With a high quality rifle rather than with an "entry level" rifle.

And, if one decides to give up on the sport,,,
You'll have a lot better results reselling a high quality rifle.

In my personal outlook on this topic,,,
I find that my opinion has changed over the years.

When someone asks me now what I would recommend,,,
I will ask them if they want to plink for recreation,,,
Or learn to shoot well enough to compete.

If they say they want to plink,,,
I'll recommend any of several lower cost rifles.

If they say they want to learn to shoot at any competitive level,,,
Even if it's only to compete in local matches,,,
I now say go ahead and buy the best,,,
The best you can afford that is.

Recently I have sold or gifted away all of my "entry and second level" rifles,,,
When I totaled up the price for the rifle, scopes, and accessories,,,
I could have purchased two of the top tier rifles I now shoot.

Recently I've been bit by the precision 10/22 bug,,,
My first thoughts were to build an entry level rifle for myself,,,

But now I'm thinking that if I decide to delve into this style of shooting,,,
I should just go ahead and order a prebuilt action/barrel/trigger,,,
From KIDD, Volquartsen, or one of the other quality builders.

It's just something I have thought about a bit in recent times,,,
Being retired I find that I spend a lot of time thinking about things like this.

I'm probably overthinking this subject,,,
But it's firmly in my head now.

Just musing on a lazy Friday morning.

Aarond

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I just read all the posts in a thread where a person asked,,,
"What is a good "Entry Level" rifle for (insert your shooting sport here).

Okay, when I got back into shooting I did the entry level single-shot rifle thing,,,
It wasn't long (or maybe it was) before I outgrew that rifle.

Then I started creeping up the ladder of quality rifles,,,
That was the point that I should have bought the absolute best I could afford.

Man did I spend a lot of money on rifles,,,
That I knew I was going to eventually replace.

What I mean by outgrew is that I reached it's limit,,,
I found that I had improved in my trigger technique enough that,,,
I couldn't improve the tightness of my groups past what the rifle was capable of.

I have often wondered if I would have been better off (or at least as well off),,,
If I would have just bought the finer rifles in the first place.

Financially I would have spent a lot less money in the long run,,,
I'm wondering if "creeping up on the quality" was actually the wise thing.

After all,,,
One can learn to shoot just as well,,,
With a high quality rifle rather than with an "entry level" rifle.

And, if one decides to give up on the sport,,,
You'll have a lot better results reselling a high quality rifle.

In my personal outlook on this topic,,,
I find that my opinion has changed over the years.

When someone asks me now what I would recommend,,,
I will ask them if they want to plink for recreation,,,
Or learn to shoot well enough to compete.

If they say they want to plink,,,
I'll recommend any of several lower cost rifles.

If they say they want to learn to shoot at any competitive level,,,
Even if it's only to compete in local matches,,,
I now say go ahead and buy the best,,,
The best you can afford that is.

Recently I have sold or gifted away all of my "entry and second level" rifles,,,
When I totaled up the price for the rifle, scopes, and accessories,,,
I could have purchased two of the top tier rifles I now shoot.

Recently I've been bit by the precision 10/22 bug,,,
My first thoughts were to build an entry level rifle for myself,,,

But now I'm thinking that if I decide to delve into this style of shooting,,,
I should just go ahead and order a prebuilt action/barrel/trigger,,,
From KIDD, Volquartsen, or one of the other quality builders.

It's just something I have thought about a bit in recent times,,,
Being retired I find that I spend a lot of time thinking about things like this.

I'm probably overthinking this subject,,,
But it's firmly in my head now.

Just musing on a lazy Friday morning.

Aarond

.
Because if you can't do it with entry level you can't do it with match grade.

This goes for any sport really, like bikes or skis. Start at entry level, learn what you are doing, then upgrade your equipment to your preferences. you are not always gonna like what you think you like when you start. My first AR was a bull barreled target setup, my final (lol right) is a mid length pencil barrel.
 

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"Maybe it's not the where you end up in the end but the quest of getting there."

I did that bought a high dollar rifle that basically could punch holes itself on target. I became bored, to easy, started taking a entry level rifle and worked to make it better. Never became bored again always looking for away to make the gun or me better.
 

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I knew a lot of metal detectorists who bought cheap $99 detectors and wondered why they were not getting the good stuff. They eventually stopped going out and sold their detector or gave it to the kids which is where it should have been in the first place. I did my research and bought what I could afford. It was a medium range $300 detector and had some tweaking capabilities I could do.

Within a year, I had a $800 detector that took me a year of Saturdays and Sundays to learn it's little whims and ailments and how I could go into the programming and tweak it. I have 5 permanent programs that came with the detector and from those I have adjusted to my four personalized programs I can load. For instance I have to swing it fast with the 8 inch coil.

I have one program for trashy areas that discriminates out a lot of stuff and one for plowed fields with hardly any discrimination that goes DEEP! I found a 1909 wheat at 18 inches and a lot of artifacts including an octagon barrel from a Sharps.

The point I'm making is you have to have the right equipment for your level of commitment to your sport.
 

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I just read all the posts in a thread where a person asked,,,
"What is a good "Entry Level" rifle for (insert your shooting sport here).

Okay, when I got back into shooting I did the entry level single-shot rifle thing,,,
It wasn't long (or maybe it was) before I outgrew that rifle.

Then I started creeping up the ladder of quality rifles,,,
That was the point that I should have bought the absolute best I could afford.

Man did I spend a lot of money on rifles,,,
That I knew I was going to eventually replace.

What I mean by outgrew is that I reached it's limit,,,
I found that I had improved in my trigger technique enough that,,,
I couldn't improve the tightness of my groups past what the rifle was capable of.

I have often wondered if I would have been better off (or at least as well off),,,
If I would have just bought the finer rifles in the first place.

Financially I would have spent a lot less money in the long run,,,
I'm wondering if "creeping up on the quality" was actually the wise thing.

After all,,,
One can learn to shoot just as well,,,
With a high quality rifle rather than with an "entry level" rifle.

And, if one decides to give up on the sport,,,
You'll have a lot better results reselling a high quality rifle.

In my personal outlook on this topic,,,
I find that my opinion has changed over the years.

When someone asks me now what I would recommend,,,
I will ask them if they want to plink for recreation,,,
Or learn to shoot well enough to compete.

If they say they want to plink,,,
I'll recommend any of several lower cost rifles.

If they say they want to learn to shoot at any competitive level,,,
Even if it's only to compete in local matches,,,
I now say go ahead and buy the best,,,
The best you can afford that is.

Recently I have sold or gifted away all of my "entry and second level" rifles,,,
When I totaled up the price for the rifle, scopes, and accessories,,,
I could have purchased two of the top tier rifles I now shoot.

Recently I've been bit by the precision 10/22 bug,,,
My first thoughts were to build an entry level rifle for myself,,,

But now I'm thinking that if I decide to delve into this style of shooting,,,
I should just go ahead and order a prebuilt action/barrel/trigger,,,
From KIDD, Volquartsen, or one of the other quality builders.

It's just something I have thought about a bit in recent times,,,
Being retired I find that I spend a lot of time thinking about things like this.

I'm probably overthinking this subject,,,
But it's firmly in my head now.

Just musing on a lazy Friday morning.

Aarond

.
Im anti “budget” things now due to the amount of money spent on firearms. I want at least mid tier level stuff thats easy to shoot. Because why should I cling to ego and tell myself how awesome I am for using a firearm that isnt tuned and easy to shoot to accomplish whatever tasks I need to accomplish!
 

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