I don't want hamburger meat, I want a chunk of **** on the floor.I hear ya, but up close bird shot turns flesh into hamburger meat per my buddy's description. At longer distances where only a few pellets hit the target, of course it isn't the best choice. But after seeing Paul Harrell's vid on buck shot and drywall, I'm not willing to risk it with kids in the house. To each his own of course.