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[JB Books]

Well, I won't take the long way around the barn...I make the rules here and I don't want to see excessive profiteering on this board. Certainly, people are free to make a profit, but I agree with Cue. I don't want to see our members hurt themselves because they are buying in a panic. The classifieds are a courtesy to our members. OSA does not make one penny from folks buying and selling and trading there. It chafes my butt to see someone who doesn't participate in anything else all of a sudden keep the classifieds hot with overpriced posts. Not fair to everyone else and not indicative of the nature of our community here.

That being said, I don't expect anyone to sell for a loss. Obviously if market conditions change, prices will go up.

 

[cichlid-dave]

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[cichlid-dave]

Maybe there was a misunderstanding as to the original post I made. The post was from armslist.com and the ability to flag for pricing is on their site only.

 

[Yojinbo]

First of all, I would like to make a suggestion. Please do not start out an argument with name calling no matter who it is. No one will ever take you serious. You can have most coherent statement in the argument but people will still assume your education level is very low. Even if it is a joke.

Now back on topic. I personally do not have a problem with someone selling an item because they want to sell it. What I do have a problem with is profiteering. It is the people camping out at sporting goods stores to buy out their entire stock. Then they come here trying to gain massive profits. They are hurting our sport and this community. I have no respect for them. Please take it to a national forum.

People do not understand what they are doing. They are ripping out the chance to enjoy our sport for people with a lower socioeconomic climate. Which is well over 80% of this community. I personally will not be affected because I can afford to throw down the money and shoot my firearms. But Jo community member that is raising a family of 4 in $45, 000 a year can not. He will have to deny taking his family to the range because it is now priced outside of his realm of income.

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I agree with Cue on the names - its beneath our calling here.

I loathe profiteering in a similar way. But rules cannot separate the father of an in utero special needs baby who is selling off magazines carefully saved for over 2 years to pay for his pending medical bills from that dastardly profiteer we love to hate. I want one of those 2 guys to get paid -the other... better left unsaid.

If a device to see inside the human soul is in use I think we can discern one from the other.

Without such a fictional device we are better off letting the market decide. "The administration ought to do something"; are the most ruinous words in any republic or free society. The cost of replacement goods adjusted for demand is the only way to regulate prices in a sane marketplace. Markets do this on their own if the butcher (and Meat Inspector) keep thumbs off the scale.

We are not 24 hours into an "attempted price spike", we are two full weeks into a price hike. The gas analogy used earlier was the right one. If I sell an full AR today I cannot replace today for $400 no one here would disagree with me. Why would we put ourselves in the position of controlling prices in any way as individuals or as OSA? If its immoral for Chinese government to do it. how can it be moral for me?

As for the reporting I think they are reporting items on another non-OSA site and bringing the discussion here.

 

[Yojinbo]

I saw a lot of replies that I missed while typing. I don't expect us to all be angles here, but an American has an obligation to understand and support free markets.

Free markets have up and down cycles. Calling the up "Bad" and the down "Good" because we might be consumers is a super-small way to look at the world. I do try and sell stocks when they are up (I wish I was better at this) and I buy when they are down.

A shrewd farmer does this with fuel, fertilizer, etc but then (if it rains) he is on the other end when he sells gain and livestock. I realize some of us are many generations removed from the soil but have we fallen so far that we cannot abide an upward movement in prices without calling for controls? Some of you have talked about selling. At these prices if I had extra guns that I do not shoot I would think about it too. Taking profit on what we own does not make us profiteers. It's a sellers market as some people have posted in other threads. (hint, hint: sell something).

The act of us turning lose our inventory (at ANY price) will address some of the "flash in the pan" temporary demand and right the ship. If this is a "temporary bump" selling more stuff will help it to be over all the quicker.

No one has a Right to cheap ARs. We all have a right to buy and sell (or not) at ANY price we choose. Let's not tread on someone else's real rights in order to support our imaginary right to unlimited cheap lowers, mags and ammo.

EDIT: OH! Kelly is not owner of OSA anymore: I am sorry Mr. Books for not keeping up on current events.

 

[Cue]

I saw a lot of replies that I missed while typing. I don't expect us to all be angles here, but an American has an obligation to understand and support free markets.

Free markets have up and down cycles. Calling the up "Bad" and the down "Good" because we might be consumers is a super-small way to look at the world. I do try and sell stocks when they are up (I wish I was better at this) and I buy when they are down.

A shrewd farmer does this with fuel, fertilizer, etc but then (if it rains) he is on the other end when he sells gain and livestock. I realize some of us are many generations removed from the soil but have we fallen so far that we cannot abide an upward movement in prices without calling for controls? Some of you have talked about selling. At these prices if I had extra guns that I do not shoot I would think about it too. Taking profit on what we own does not make us profiteers. It's a sellers market as some people have posted in other threads. (hint, hint: sell something).

The act of us turning lose our inventory (at ANY price) will address some of the "flash in the pan" temporary demand and right the ship. If this is a "temporary bump" selling more stuff will help it to be over all the quicker.

No one has a Right to cheap ARs. We all have a right to buy and sell (or not) at ANY price we choose. Let's not tread on someone else's real rights in order to support our imaginary right to unlimited cheap lowers, mags and ammo.

EDIT: OH! Kelly is not owner of OSA anymore: I am sorry Mr. Books for not keeping up on current events.

You forget one thing. This is a community. No one is having any rights trampled on. You are free to buy and sell as you please. However you are not free to do as you please here because this is not a public forum. It is a member forum.

 

[1shott]

You forget one thing. This is a community. No one is having any rights trampled on. You are free to buy and sell as you please. However you are not free to do as you please here because this is not a public forum. It is a member forum.

Its not a PAY to join club either, and its not a co-op. Until otherwise posted by who ever owns the site and sets the rules, It looks like folks are free to set the price of their merchandise they are selling at what price the current market will support.

 

[Cue]

Its not a PAY to join club either, and its not a co-op. Until otherwise posted by who ever owns the site and sets the rules, It looks like folks are free to set the price of their merchandise they are selling at what price the current market will support.

Please tell me how people intangle rights are being trampled on?

 

[1shott]

Please tell me how people intangle rights are being trampled on?

LOL no where did I say anyones rights are being trampled on.

 

[Cue]

LOL no where did I say anyones rights are being trampled on.

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