Country vs. State

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Buzzgun

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I'd probably side with the state, if for no other reason than the fact that we can have more influence at a state level. If the state government does something we don't like, we have a much better chance of changing it than in the same situation on a national level.
 

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I prefer the term "War Against Northern Aggression".

The war wasn't about secession or slavery or "holding the union together" as the history books try to make you believe. The war was about the highly populated and manufacturing-based northern states using their power in Congress to force the lesser populated and export-based southern states to subsidize the northern economy. The southern states finally had enough and chose to secede and form their own country. Fearing the loss of those subsidies, the United States went to war with the Confederate States to bring the southern economy back in.

It disgusts me when the wrong answer is considered the right answer by educators. For example, in an educational setting, what is the "correct" answer to a question of "What document freed the slaves?"

Our schools are not about education, they are about re-education and indoctrination.

+1 for VeggieMeat on this one. Yep -- many people don't realize that Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation only applied to the states not under Union Control i.e. the CSA. Slaves in the North were not freed......
 

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My citizenship in Oklahoma makes me a citizen of these United States of America, not the other way around.

I will always side with liberty. This may mean I side with the government of the federation of these states, and this may mean I side with my state. It depends on the circumstance.
 

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I'm an American and an Oklahoman....the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the government of either entity steers away from my values then I have choices.


What ever yankee. I know where you are really from. This man is a spy.
 

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What ever yankee. I know where you are really from. This man is a spy.

Hey, you're a transplant like me too...albeit from a southern state at least.

I claim no allegiance to my ancestral northern home, just like our forefathers swore off any allegiance to the crown!
 

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