Home HOA issues

[donner]

I just spoke with the Vyve supervisor. He had to call the construction crew at 6 this morning to stop them from working in my addition. He also said they are boring everything instead of trenching so it won’t even mess up anything. Then he told me the HOA president said I don’t know if anyone that wants your service to which the Vyve supervisor said there have been several trying to get it. The old man is trying to be an A hole. Well that is what he is. He thinks he owns everything. He told the Vyve supervisor that he would personally go around and tell people what is happening and give them a ballot. If he thinks for one second he is the one counting those ballots he is dead wrong. We should have a meeting just like any other time we vote. Why all of the sudden is this different? It’s bexaue he is trying to control the outcome. I am not letting up until we get it installed. I don’t see how by what our HOA covenants say that he can stop them. It doesn’t specifically say a cable or utility company can’t install without a vote. When I told the Vyve guy what it said he though it was referring to adding onto houses or property and that it didn’t refer to utilities. I am sending him a copy of the covenants and he is gonna talk with his boss. Hopefully it gets resolved without a big hassle.

you might also reach out to any kind of county supervisor (or whatever the Oklahoma equivalent is). They might be more familiar with the right of way laws for your area. And (at least here) bringing high speed internet to rural areas has been a big campaign push, so they might be more likely to smooth things along if it's in their interest to do so. If the provider is considered a utility then they likely have legal standing that would trump a HOA. They just might not want to go that route for PR purposes.

 

[SMS]

I'd arrange to personally let the construction crew in and escort them to the job site LOL...

Our old HOA had covenants regarding projects and additions as well. Plans had to be submitted to the "architectural control committee". The old man that ran it for a few years tried to use that clause to stop people from even putting french drains in their backyards. He shut his mouth when he was called out for the giant HAM antenna he assembled in his backyard that never received approval from any "committee". Folks often did the high-schoolish "letter in the mailbox" game to fight each other over petty stuff. So glad to be rid of that mess.

 

[O4L]

First...Vyve sucks! Be careful what you wish for.

Second...It doesn't cost them anything more to get the utilities located than they already pay, as an underground utility, for that service.

When anyone calls for underground utility locating through Call Okie, there is no charge to them for the service.

Most of the bigger companies that have underground utilities pay a pre determined yearly fee to a contractor to locate their cables or lines.

Sorry for your troubles. Having a jerk for a HOA administrator can't be good.

 

[Fredkrueger100]

First...Vyve sucks! Be careful what you wish for.

Second...It doesn't cost them anything more to get the utilities located than they already pay, as an underground utility, for that service.

When anyone calls for underground utility locating through Call Okie, there is no charge to them for the service.

Most of the bigger companies that have underground utilities pay a pre determined yearly fee to a contractor to locate their cables or lines.

I had Vyve for years in my old place and it was great. My dad and cousins have it and they love it. I actually have a bridge set up between my dads house and mine and I can use his internet. I actually get about 25-30 mbps speed and it’s consistent. I can stream 4K with it. But I want Vyve to come in here so I can get a faster speed and to not have to worry about a bridge failing and having to get up there and install a new one. But I have heard of people not being happy with Vyve. I think it depends on where you are.

 

[O4L]

I had Vyve for years in my old place and it was great. My dad and cousins have it and they love it. I actually have a bridge set up between my dads house and mine and I can use his internet. I actually get about 25-30 mbps speed and it’s consistent. I can stream 4K with it. But I want Vyve to come in here so I can get a faster speed and to not have to worry about a bridge failing and having to get up there and install a new one. But I have heard of people not being happy with Vyve. I think it depends on where you are.

It's more about their customer service and raising their prices constantly, although the actual cable TV they provide to my neighborhood had several issues that they refused to address for many years. They admitted there were problems and that they weren't going to do anything about it but they still charged full price for our crappy service.

 

[Preacherman]

I love living in the country and being able to do what ever I want.

 

[scalawag pimp]

HOA laws are very complicated but one of the best lawyers about them is located in Tulsa, OK. I had trouble with an HOA but I had the time and money to fight the president and won. I have not read all the responses but I would like to tell you what I know from personal experience.

1. HOA laws can NOT trump ordinances or laws. It starts with City, County, State, then Federal. I would find it odd if any of these had ordinances or law restricting an internet provider.

2. Yes it is a federal crime to put anything in or on a mail box. Specifically, "only U.S. Mail delivered by authorized personnel may be placed in mailboxes". This restriction also includes, "anything placed upon, supported by, attached to, hung from, or inserted into a mail receptacle.

3. All members of the HOA are exactly that, members. More importantly the Board is just elected officials that do what is best for the members as a whole. If I am not mistaken, HOA law requires a vote of 2/3 to amend the agreement and 3/4 is need to remove an agreement entirely. While I don't think this matter involves such a vote, I do think that is where these numbers are coming from.

4. If I am reading everything correctly, the president is only stopping the installation due to the fact it will cause work on a easement? If that is the case, I would defiantly go door to door and talk with the other members.

5. Anyone can sue the HOA (and all its members) for breach of agreement. For example, in my case we had a part that excluded signs of any type. The idea was no one with a home business could advertise with a sign in yard. However, it specifically said, NO SIGNS AT ALL. So I served notice with my intent to sue if not all signs didn't come down, including team banner (all the OU fans didn't like that), home security signs, name plaques in planters, etc. Find something to aggravate the board and get them off your back.

6. In addition, the board must product a written treasury statement each year. This is required and if they do not do it, again the HOA is void. Another important part of this; to keep your tax exempt status, you have to spend 90% of what is collected. Most people just pay the money and move on. But if they are not collecting for the improvement or upkeep of common areas, they can not collect in the first place. What you will probably find they have been using you cash to host dinner parties at their house. Eitherway, the board must pay taxes on anything over 10% not spent. I would find out where money is going, compare to what is collected, and then tell HOA member to stop contributing too much. If you are not careful, you will end up paying taxes on money you have already paid taxes on.

7. They are required to hold at least 1 meeting a year (could be more i don't remember). Again nulls the HOA if they are not.

My fight was over the HOA saying my dog had to be on a chain if in the front yard. I had over an acre lot and told them to get bent. There was no city ordinance that said I had to and only reference was if I was walking my dog away from home. I won easy but it started a battle with the president. He was an old man that thought for the first time in his life he had power to be somebody. It didn't take long for him to realized he picked a fight with the wrong person.

The federal government has really cracked down on HOA as they grew out of hand. In some cases leans were put on homes for simply having the wrong color paint. It has been several years since I had to research all that, but if you want to take the time, you can fight the fight. Read the HOA and use it against them. I am sure they have missed something in there. Lastly, if you can file suit against your own HOA (and against yourself oddly enough) so take the fight to court. If you stand up, they might decide its not worth it.

 

[Cowcatcher]

I bet your HOA Prez is just waiting for the company to hand him a pie with an envelope taped to the bottom of the pan. That's all.

 

[jfssms]

what happens in the Denver metro is HOA's set 5 gallon buckets of ice melt all around your living space. it cost only $ 350 per month since homeowners spread it. all expenses are on the homeowner. in all fairness the HOA plows our snow pack sometimes.

 

[Legend]

People move into additions with HOAs to prevent people from doing stuff that deflates their perceived property values and then complain about HOAs over-reach. No HOAs should be on the top of your list when house shopping if you don't like dealing with igits.