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Take a human life or even endanger human lives in the name of saving an animals life?
WTF has this world come to?

How wise is it to drunkenly ride a dirtbike with no headlights fast enough to kill yoself if you hit something your drunk ass can't see?

I guess it's about wise enough to kill yoself. Question resolved. Any more existential conundrums?
 

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"Smells of alcohol". That one always gets me: pure alcohol is odorless.

a.) this is oklahoma - brown likker and cheap beer ain't odorless

b.) you excrete odors when metabolizing alcohol

What says the bike rider was drunk? All it says is that someone on the scene claimed that he smelled of alcohol.

I've been accused by more than one trooper during a traffic stop of having a smell of alcohol - one time all that I had was a Braum's burger and chocolate malt, and the other time was McD's chicken nuggets and a Dr. Pepper. Both times it was phrased the exact same way.

"You smell like alcohol. Have you been drinking?" <No>
"May I search your vehicle?" <No>
"Is that because I will find an open container?" <If this conversation is to continue further beyond [[the initial cause]] of this traffic stop, I would like to consult my lawyer first.>
Gives warning to replace tag light, which wasn't out on either stop

That's just a trooper hoping you're dumb so he can search your vehicle. Many, many, many people say yes. Many people with fawking drugs in the car say yes because they think if they say no they look suspicious. Many people who have possession arrests on their record would have clean records if they said "no" instead of "sure, I guess".

Didn't you used to have long hair and look like a doper? There ya go. If he really thought you smelled of alcohol/were drunk, you would have been arrested. He just wanted to search your car if you said yes.

My doper friends from HS who have never been arrested have never consented to a search, and almost without fail most of those who have been arrested arrived there via the "you don't have anything, huh?" "uh, no officer" "mind if I take a look?" "uh, no...I guess not". In a different life I had a friend that had enough of an illegal plant in his glovebox to give him a nice vacation. OHP stop and trooper asked if he could take a quick look around his car. He said no. Why? I appreciate you doing your job - but I have things I need to do today. OK then, be safe. You too, sir. If he'd said "I don't mind" it would have been door panel glance, console glance, glovebox glance, handcuffs.
 
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Poaching, or whatever the game warden was trying to find, is a despicable crime. But it's not worth a human life. Ever.
 
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Poaching, or whatever the game warden was trying to find, is a despicable crime. But it's not worth a human life. Ever.

You may have missed the point. Poachers shooting at game at night from the road may have a darkened house in the background they may not see. the house may actually be uphill, to the left or right of the game, but after many years of shooting tracer ammo at night, I can assure you a bullet does not continue its assigned path after striking anything.
Its public safety, as that 30.06 bullet may travel many miles. A .22 at 45 degrees is good for a mile and a quarter.
there are homes in almost every square mile of any area in Oklahoma, so its concievable that any of those homes are in danger of an errant round.
 

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Poaching, or whatever the game warden was trying to find, is a despicable crime. But it's not worth a human life. Ever.

Not according to the all knowing here.

Yeah, you're going to have to stop implying the game warden in question took a human life.

I've been involved in a fatality accident where an elderly driver lost consciousness/control behind the wheel, ran a stop sign onto a highway, and hit me. Guess I've "taken a human life" too, because me going to work was worth a human life. I clearly should not have existed and/or placed myself where someone could run into me for something as trivial as going to work.

Get over yourselves and drop the childish hyperbole.
 

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I see your point and if that is what he was doing them I am good with that. But it said he was monitoring a wildlife refuge. Correct? That's where my issue comes in. If he couldn't see the guy on the motorcycle how the crap is he going to see a guy with a gun? I still think something need to change. Why not put a plane up and just radio in the location of the spot light?
 
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