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Are you implying that the American workers don't like blue collar factory work? Seriously?

I'm kind of with you on this one. Bear in mind, the following job number figures are just close estimates, going off of what I remember of my hometown.

In Cassville, MO, there are(WERE) 5 factory job options that don't require a 40+ mile drive to find a job.

2 of these are locally owned factories. These account for about 300 jobs total.

#3 is an aluminum extrusion factory, originally owned locally, but eventually winding up in the hands of a company out of Norway. It employed about 100 people at its max, and they were all interconnected in some way. One of those failures of small town life that make jobs available only to your brother/cousin/uncle or whoever.

It's closing down now. The Norway company just decided to drop the profitable company.

#4 is relatively new, a chicken processing plant we'll just coincidentally name Jorge's. Since it opened, there have been signs on the Mexican side of the border inviting Mexicans to come work there, along with a monthly raid from INS(which we now know is pretty useless, judging by all the ICE reports). They employ 750-1000 people, but I'll never know for sure how many locals are allowed to work there. . .

#5 is the one I'm most familiar with. My dad has worked there since the 70's, mom worked there for 10 years, aunts, uncles, cousins, and myself have worked there. It has been in business in my town for 40+ years, making AC motors and blowers for furnaces. Even if yours says TRANE, LENNOX, or otherwise, chances are pretty good it might say Fasco, Inc. on the motor. They've been bought out by overseas corporations a few times, and even almost went under a time or two.

Now, however, dad has been having to make plans to send the factory to Mexico. They've been under the threat for almost 10 years, but the reality is looming much larger now.

It used to employ probably 1500+ people, maybe a third of that now since more and more of the work has been shipped South of the border.


In a town with a population of 6k-8k people, not counting the country people, what do you do when there are barely 2k jobs? You can't live off of minimum wage driving 2 hours a day to work at McD's in Springfield, Joplin, or Rogers. There are plenty of people wishing to bust their butts in factories around my hometown.


Bring the work BACK to AMERICA!
 

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I'm not implying, I'm stating the obvious.

It's why people tell their kids "Go to college and get a good job" instead of "Drop out of high school and mow lawns."
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That only proves there's less manufacturing jobs. Hell, I'd like to be a Scientist or some other noble profession but not everyone who wants to go to college, can. People do the best they can with what they've got, except of course the Entitlement Weiners. Never have I seen where the Harley-Davidson plant in KC announced openings and no one showed up. It's like a madhouse! The only thing worse I've seen was that crowd they had for those Housing Vouchers.

And if GE produced those bulbs here none of us could afford them, not that I want to at any price! I've had 4 of those damn CFL's burn out in my Apartment and I've only been in it 3 months!


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Now this is interesting. New twist on an old technology

Vu1 readies efficient lightbulb Edison would love

The latest challenger in the lighting technology race is LEDs, which are trying to displace familiar incandescents and more efficient compact fluorescents bulbs. But lighting company Vu1 is going a different route.

Vu1 (pronounced "View one") today said that it received UL certification for its first lightbulb which it says matches the light quality of incandescent bulbs but uses a fraction of the energy and costs less than current LEDs.

Its technology, which the company calls electronically stimulated luminescence (ESL), is derived from cathode ray tubes used in televisions, said Chief Operating Officer Philip Styles. Electrons are fired at a bulb coated in phosphors which are excited and emit light. The effect is a "natural light," which is the same as a traditional incandescent, Styles said.

"It's basically old technology that everybody just gave up on some years ago because it's based on the TV side, not lighting," he said.

Because of the phosphors Vu1 is using, it can better match the light spectrum of incandescent light than competing technologies, Styles said.
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Its first product, which Vu1 intends to start making early next year, is an R30 floodlight for recessed cans which produces as much light as a 65-watt incandescent at 870 lumens while consuming 19 watts. An Energy Star-compliant compact fluorescent light with similar output consumes about 13 watts. But unlike compact fluorescent bulbs, Vu1 bulbs will not have mercury. The cost is projected to be under $20, said Styles.

Vu1 estimates that the life of the bulb will be eight years and the color rendering index is 85. It is dimmable, has instant-on light, and the color temperature is adjustable.

Next year, Vu1 plans to introduce a general-purpose bulb in the familiar "A" shape which will give off 870 lumens and use less than 19 watts. The company is targeting a price between $10 and $12, Styles said.
 

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Manufacturing jobs are being replaced in our service based economy. Those who are adapting are either getting degreed "professional" positions, or they are entering other service professions.

What kind? Retail, food service, entry-level medical (think CNA, phlebotomy, etc.), hospitality... these are all fields that have grown over the last few decades. Don't like them? Well that's life.
 

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I've worked for a lighting company for 20 years and have sold all kinds of incandescents, compacts and now LED's. With compacts and LEDs you can't go cheap. The $10.00 LED's sold at some of the big box stores will shift in color and will ultimatly lose their life fairly quickly, Really good quality LED will run in the $45-$60 range.
The life on compact will be cut short if you turn them off and on a lot, they are like the 4 ft T-12's and T-8's which need to warm up to work effectively. That is a reason that some incandescents are still needed.
Also, like already stated if you have a dimmer and don't buy a dimming compact it will shorten the life or kill it all together.
If you think compact's and LED's are too expensive remember the energy savings, you either pay up front when you buy or later with your electric bill.

60watt X 4000 hours burned X .08 (typical kwh)/1000 = $19.20 to burn per year per bulb.
13 watt CFL X 4000 hours burned X .08/1000= $4.16 to burn per year per bulb.
Plus you will typically buy 8-10 incandescents per one compact so add that cost in too. If you are having short life with your incandescents try to buy a 130V bulb, it will look a little dimmer but will withstand the power surges we all experience.
 

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Or, change the way things are.

The point is that a healthy economy is going to transition to the most efficient and profitable markets.

Changing it would require regulation, subsidization, or other type of intervention in the marketplace. It's not the direction the free market is going in this country.
 

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The point is that a healthy economy is going to transition to the most efficient and profitable markets.

Changing it would require regulation, subsidization, or other type of intervention in the marketplace. It's not the direction the free market is going in this country.

My point is that Milton was wrong. The so called "free market" never existed, only the opportunity for corporations to gain from this country without ever giving back, the ability to make a pair of snickers using 3rd world labor and selling at US prices.
This so called free trade has awakened the Chinese sleeping dragon and has filled him with a terrible resolve. It is destroying our economy and has become a direct threat to our national security.
It has to go or we will perish.
 

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