Be sure to let us know how that works out for ya...
Wow, that is EXACTLY what i was thinking! ... Still love ya, though, SirRofl!!,
Be sure to let us know how that works out for ya...
I absolutely agree that it is 100% your decision and your right. And yes, according to the castle doctrine you are allowed to defend yourself in either as they both are your dwelling. But a place of business (ie: retail shop) I certainly would not consider equivalent to a home (ie: place of residence). A retail shop I am welcoming the public. My residence, I most certainly am not.
If I owned a Chilis... I wouldn't consider that my "home".
The reason you were quoted in the first place was because of: "How dare someone come into my home and call me unconstitutional simply for making a request that they not bring something into my home." -- nobody said you were being anti-2A or unconstitutional because you made a request that they not bring something into your home... and even if they did, brush it off and move on.
You need to brush up on the constitution and the court cases decided to uphold it. Businesses are not public property just because they are open to the public.
"A retail shop I am welcoming the public."..... I said that a retail shop IS public property?
It's amazing that people can't understand that I am _not_ saying you don't/shouldn't have all of your rights in both your residence & place of business, but simply that the two are separate. Guess I'm just not smrat like some of you folks.
"A retail shop I am welcoming the public."..... I said that a retail shop IS public property?
It's amazing that people can't understand that I am _not_ saying you don't/shouldn't have all of your rights in both your residence & place of business, but simply that the two are separate. Guess I'm just not smrat like some of you folks.
Explain what you meant by "welcoming the public"? I can welcome a total stranger in my home too, and still not want them to carry.
Simply enough,... a business, any business disallowing the carry of a firearm is doing so under the explicit protection of the Constitution of the United States and decades of supporting court cases. Someone thinking 2A applies to private property, be it a home or business is strongly mistaken, misguided, or outlandishly hypocritical.
No you're pretty "smrat" all right.LOL
I have to disagree with this one. Just because they want to control what happens on their property, doesn't mean they don't believe in our constitution. If anything, they're simply exercising their God given right to own property and then make the decisions as to what takes place on that property. I have much more of a problem with government (public) owned establishments banning guns than a private business/property owner deciding what they want. How dare someone come into my home and call me unconstitutional simply for making a request that they not bring something into my home.
BTW... I'm a business owner that welcomes firearms. Just think the business owner has the right to choose.
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Yes, that was on purpose... I guess you're not quite smrat enough to figure that out. leern 2 reed gud please.
I agree totally to this. We act as if the Constitution is only for ourselves. That we can do anything we want wherever we want. We have a right to property, and by possessing this property we have the right to dictate what happens on it, within the law. We get to decide with whom we associate. So if a private homeowner doesn't want my gun to accompany me, so be it, I won't go in. If a business doesn't want me to carry a gun, so be it, it’s their choice. I choose other businesses if possible, but I make my displeasure known at all of these prohibitive locations. I also make a point of mentioning to the management at places that don't have signs, why I am now a new customer. I believe in the Constitution and I detest any distortion of it. I alone can’t change all of the things that our gov't has done to subjugate the supreme law of our land, but I won’t be a party to stomping on it myself. I honor everyone’s rights, and I’m fully aware that my rights cannot limit yours.
We constantly say that we should be trusted because we have passed a background check and we have shown a propensity to be lawful. Then we post on this and other websites that we ignore certain laws and other people’s property rights. Sad state of affairs and if I were an anti, I would be pointing this out at every debate.
I personally believe that the background check is unconstitutional, along with the permit and all of the other limits, but that’s a subject for another thread.
Sorry, as any who have seen my posts know, brevity is not my strong point. I have problems with getting what’s in the brain-housing group down on paper.
I meant simply that... a retail shop is welcoming the public, that doesn't mean it becomes public property... the government doesn't own it.. the business owner does. I *absolutely* agree that they have 100% right to request (or demand) that nothing enter their property that they say shouldn't be there. It's also my right to not shop there.
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