They’re gonna make it rough on you porn addicts.

[dennishoddy]

I agree.
I thinks that where natural selection takes place. More ppl need to defend themselves from these type of ppl without repercussions from the law.

If they cross the line the law allows, I agree. Petty property theft isn’t a killable offense last time I looked.
Addicts should be funneled into treatment programs that teach life skills after treatment. Putting them back on the street without it results in almost 100% recidivism back into addiction.
I’m not speaking from a speculative standpoint, but from actually having some relatives that have gone to the depths of hell, finally ending up as complete wrecks unable to help themselves.
They got into private in-house treatment programs that put them through the 12 step program to sobriety while working in the job market to pay for their own room and board while getting there.
Can’t tell you how many of those meetings I’ve attended in support of them getting a challenge coin to celebrate another milestone in their journey.
One screw up, it’s probation. Twice your back out on the street. It’s a very difficult program to get through but the return to drugs/alcohol rate for that facility is very low.
Another distant relative has been to prison twice for crimes committed to support his addiction to drugs. We’ve tried to help him but he won’t work after getting out even though we offer work, going back to selling to support the habit, committing crimes to support it, getting caught, and he’s back in jail waiting on transfer to another prison currently. I’ve dealt with addicts for 30 some years. Had my stuff stolen, relatives property stolen and lived through the thousands of lies they tell you.
I hate drugs and any thought that addictive drugs should be a personal choice gets under my skin because of all the misery those produce for the addicted and the families that love them.

 

[Beautiful Mulberry]

If they cross the line the law allows, I agree. Petty property theft isn’t a killable offense last time I looked.
Addicts should be funneled into treatment programs that teach life skills after treatment. Putting them back on the street without it results in almost 100% recidivism back into addiction.
I’m not speaking from a speculative standpoint, but from actually having some relatives that have gone to the depths of hell, finally ending up as complete wrecks unable to help themselves.
They got into private in-house treatment programs that put them through the 12 step program to sobriety while working in the job market to pay for their own room and board while getting there.
Can’t tell you how many of those meetings I’ve attended in support of them getting a challenge coin to celebrate another milestone in their journey.
One screw up, it’s probation. Twice your back out on the street. It’s a very difficult program to get through but the return to drugs/alcohol rate for that facility is very low.
Another distant relative has been to prison twice for crimes committed to support his addiction to drugs. We’ve tried to help him but he won’t work after getting out even though we offer work, going back to selling to support the habit, committing crimes to support it, getting caught, and he’s back in jail waiting on transfer to another prison currently. I’ve dealt with addicts for 30 some years. Had my stuff stolen, relatives property stolen and lived through the thousands of lies they tell you.
I hate drugs and any thought that addictive drugs should be a personal choice gets under my skin because of all the misery those produce for the addicted and the families that love them.

My apologies you and your family had to go through that. I know all to well from experience. I was raised in addiction and was an addict. I went through hell. From first hand experience you can not help someone who does not want to get better.
An addict is someone who has given up life to an outside source. I hate drugs and alcohol or any addiction with a passion. This is why I said what I did in earlier post. I have no sympathy.
I talk to kids and adults on a regular basis about addiction and life.
If you ever want to chat about it send a message and I’ll send you my number.
like I was saying Iv been through hell stopped, danced with the devil.

 

[Capm_Spaulding]

How rough we talkin?

 

[bigb159]

As usual, all the coomers show up to defend their right to degeneracy. Honestly, what's the point, gents? No one cares about your porn needs, and no one wants to stop your fapping alone in the dark. Just leave the kids out of it.

"I found dad's tiddy mags when I was twelve, hur hur" is not the strong argument you seem to think it is. Simply because your parents and society failed to protect you, doesn't mean we have to subject all children to early loss of innocence. Honestly, "let boys see tits" is some pedo-level thinking.

The physical world reality is that X-Rated merchandise and advertising gets hidden from kids, or you lose your business license. Society demands that if you sell adult items like alcohol, weapons, vehicles or sex, you don't do it to kids, whether they are your kids or not.

Pornographers will sell their own and others' bodies and souls for an extra buck. They don't care who it is, or what age they are - this is the purest form of libertarianism some dream about. Online, creating an addict is easy pickings; they eagerly and actively create funnels to drive people from spam and ads, all the paid to their paid memberships, and from the comfort of the addict's home.

Parents have next to zero protections against these malicious ads, except banning all devices from their homes, which today is near impossible to do. You have to be a technologist to implement functional porn restrictions in your home, and those even fail to filter basic image searches. Parents need better tools, and porn should not be three letters and the enter key away.

Until then, standard age verification to access pornography, much like in a physical store, seems a reasonable ask. Yes, the risks should fall squarely on your shoulders, not kids'.

 

[turkeyrun]

If they cross the line the law allows, I agree. Petty property theft isn’t a killable offense last time I looked.

Maybe it should be. Take a few out and some will decide it isn't worth it.
Look at Kommiefornia, set $950 as threshold for prosecution, crime skyrockets, below $950. Miscreants walk in, grab what they can and leave, scotch free. A store owner or cop takes a few out, problem reduced. During ANTIFA / BLM peaceful protests, the stores with ARMED OWNERS outside did NOT get looted or burned. Wonder why?

You loot - we shoot works.
Enough is enough. It's time to take back our country.

 

[TedKennedy]

As usual, all the coomers show up to defend their right to degeneracy. Honestly, what's the point, gents? No one cares about your porn needs, and no one wants to stop your fapping alone in the dark. Just leave the kids out of it.

"I found dad's tiddy mags when I was twelve, hur hur" is not the strong argument you seem to think it is. Simply because your parents and society failed to protect you, doesn't mean we have to subject all children to early loss of innocence. Honestly, "let boys see tits" is some pedo-level thinking.

The physical world reality is that X-Rated merchandise and advertising gets hidden from kids, or you lose your business license. Society demands that if you sell adult items like alcohol, weapons, vehicles or sex, you don't do it to kids, whether they are your kids or not.

Pornographers will sell their own and others' bodies and souls for an extra buck. They don't care who it is, or what age they are - this is the purest form of libertarianism some dream about. Online, creating an addict is easy pickings; they eagerly and actively create funnels to drive people from spam and ads, all the paid to their paid memberships, and from the comfort of the addict's home.

Parents have next to zero protections against these malicious ads, except banning all devices from their homes, which today is near impossible to do. You have to be a technologist to implement functional porn restrictions in your home, and those even fail to filter basic image searches. Parents need better tools, and porn should not be three letters and the enter key away.

Until then, standard age verification to access pornography, much like in a physical store, seems a reasonable ask. Yes, the risks should fall squarely on your shoulders, not kids'.

Pay attention folks. This is a fantastic lesson on how a real, indefensible problem becomes a vehicle by which restrictive laws are passed. I have no doubt Bigb159 means well, but vigilance against more regulation is in order.

 

[Snattlerake]

I'm addicted to beating off.... Not porn. I'll still do it without, but it takes for freaking ever!! Who wants to concentrate that hard?

There are two liars, those that say they never have and those that say they quit.

 

[Rez Exelon]

Pornographers will sell their own and others' bodies and souls for an extra buck. They don't care who it is, or what age they are - this is the purest form of libertarianism some dream about. Online, creating an addict is easy pickings; they eagerly and actively create funnels to drive people from spam and ads, all the paid to their paid memberships, and from the comfort of the addict's home.

There's no job in the world where we don't sell our bodies. Whether you sell it in the coal mines, the sheets, or an office, literally none of us are selling anything but our bodies and minds for labor. And no one hiring (or doing the videos) is trying to pay extra.

 

[turkeyrun]

Those that seek, will find. Goobermint regulated prohibition has been tried and tried and tried.

Remember several years back, smart phones were new, web access, phone stores had the phones activated, out on the counter for potential customers to experience.

We were in US Cellular (or whatever provider), there was a kiosk with 12-15 available models on display.
Sitting at the service desk, I seen 2 teens on every phone at the kiosk, then quickly leave the store. No alarms activated. No phones missing. The staff went about their business.

A woman comes in with 2 boys (~7-8yo). She is at the service desk, waiting, behind me. The boys wandered to the kiosk.

I hear giggles and see the wide eyed boys at the kiosk. Tell the woman that she should check why they a giggling.
She tells me, "cartoons".

Tech comes back with my phone, test it, and start out to leave. Walk by the kiosk, glance at the phones and porn is on screen. I turned to the woman, point at the boys, "cartoons have changed since I was young."

Going out the door, I hear a scream.

They display phones differently today.

21k+ gun laws on the books, those who will abuse, will. More laws will not prevent abuse or keep you safe. Porn, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes or anything else is no different. Bigger goobermint, with more power is not the answer to any question EVER.