This is just embarrassing

[candrpotts]

When you lump "biological evolution" and "anthropogenic (human-driven) climate change" into the same "universally accepted theories", you lose all credibility.

You want to test kids on the THEORY of evolution, that's fine. But if you want to penalize students because they don't hold to that THEORY, that's a whole different matter.

Until the theory becomes a law, well, it's still just an idea.

I beg to differ. Each idea has been tested, repeatedly, and without fail. The only real difference between theory and law is the amount of time it's been tested and no evidence has been provided to counter the arguement. Whether you agree that the climate is changing as a result of human activity is irrelevant. The evidence is abundance and profound. Evolution has been repeatedly shown to be the source of speciation. IMO, it is those who deny what's in front of them that have the credibility problem.

 

[dugby]

I would have to disagree, I've always seen it taught as the "Theory of Evolution," never the law or fact of evolution. I can't say the same for creationisim.
As I see it, the THEORIES of creationism or intelligent design fall under religion and shouldn't be anywhere near a government funded institution.

How silly. A thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters in a thousand years won't write a single short story. Maybe a poem or two.

People do not lose their rights just because they disagree with the worship of science.

 

[austin.brown]

I don't see a problem with the legislation. We all know that school teachers are not the most intelligent beings in our society.

You are correct, they do not have P.H.D.'s heck most of them do not even have Masters, but they choose to get a collage education and teach our kids for horrible pay, at least in OK, crappy hours, and ask nothing in return. Beats the hell out of milking the welfare system.


Please do not lump all the teachers in together, There are some bad eggs along with some amazing individuals in our public school system. My wife is one of the great ones, and yes I am a little bias.

 

[toehanus]

Theory, i do not think that word means what you think it means.

Hello, my name is science teacher. You question my theories. Prepare to die!

@toehanus

 

[Blinocac200sx]

Let's clear something up. All "laws" of science, are theories. The "Law" of gravity, is a theory that just hasn't been proven wrong yet.
That said, you do a great disservice to science, when you penalize someone for researching theories that don't correlate to your own. It's just like the Catholic church in the dark ages, "If you don't admit the earth is the center of the universe, you are a heretic." Now it's "If you don't admit that people didn't live alongside dinosaurs, you are a heretic." It needs to stop from both sides. We need to encourage academic freedom.

 

[SoonerBorn]

I get what you(whoever it was that referred to ID, I can't remember) are saying but until someone can tell me exactly how the universe began I refuse to pigeon hole "intelligent design" as any more ludicrous than man coming from an ape. There are plenty of questions that can and should be raised about evolution. Science is supposed to be a free thinking Mecca but when it comes to questioning evolution it's anything but.

For the record, I'm about as agnostic as it gets. I have no clue presently about the afterlife and won't until I take my last breath.

 

[carlstretch]

At one point in our history the greatest scientific minds thought that Christopher Columbus would sail off the end of the world, and this was regarded as fact.

Perspective.

Acceptance and empirical proof of a spherical Earth was known well before Columbus was even a twinkle in his daddy's eye,.. or his daddy's, daddy's eye,.. or his daddy's daddy's, daddy's eye. We're talking about at least 500 years before Columbus. Hell,.. even Aristotle knew it before Jesus was born.

Talk about perspective....

 

[caojyn]

How silly. A thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters in a thousand years won't write a single short story. Maybe a poem or two.

I would have to agree, that would take a lot longer than a thousand years, lol

People do not lose their rights just because they disagree with the worship of science.

I don't see any rights being lost, you're still free to worship how you wish, but are still required to know the building blocks of biology.

By the logic of the proposed bill a student could get an "A" on an Evolution Paper by writing about how the titan Prometheus made us, or how the universe is riding the shell of the giant turtle.

 

[Blinocac200sx]

I would have to agree, that would take a lot longer than a thousand years, lol


I don't see any rights being lost, you're still free to worship how you wish, but are still required to know the building blocks of biology.

By the logic of the proposed bill a student could get an "A" on an Evolution Paper by writing about how the titan Prometheus made us, or how the universe is riding the shell of the giant turtle.

I didn't get that out of it at all. The paper would still need to have solid science behind it, it just can't be discounted just because it brings doubt on "accepted" theories.

 

[JD8]

Evolution is a theory, that's it, a "theory", never proven, but it's been taught as fact for many years. If evolution can't be proven, then what's the alternative?

Evolution has been and can be proven. Now before people that only know what they are told in church object, I'm referring to the process by which populations change over time in the animal kingdom.