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Following someone is not a crime and obliviously his actions are what in the end lead to the death of Martin. It was Martins actions of confronting the guy who was observing him from a distance and the assault he put on Zimmerman that caused his death. If I see someone who I think is about to commit a crime I can observe them as a witness and if during that observation they attack me and I fear for my life and kill them I'm not blame. That's about the dumbest nonsense I've heard lately!

Would you confront and question someone following you in your neighborhood?
 

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Folks there was one witness that saw Martin on top of Zimmerman beating him. They did not see the start of the fight but they did see that.

there also was a witness that saw Zimmerman on top beating Martin. there also was a witness that heard conversation from final minutes.

bottom line was defense did a much better job at discrediting witness against them than prosecution did in favor. think how different trial would have ended up had the female black witness been more believable?

all the cards were stacked in favor of defense. bar for murder 2 is so high all they had to do was introduce an element of doubt. defense had no obligation to prove innocence, only establish doubt exist. defense exploited the fact shooting took place in conditions so dark. despite multiple witnesses .. NO one was able to see clear enough to testify without doubt.

prosecution knew all of above .. yet they chose to pursue murder 2 .. knowing it would be all but impossible to secure a conviction. but going after murder 2 sound sooo much better in the media.

there's a possibility Zimmerman murdered Martin and got away with it by using deep legal resources. In no small part by his former Judge dad knowing who to pick for his defense.

a LOT of folks out there think the legal system was gamed!

compare results with the unfortunate women that fired a warning shot at husband with a restraining order .. getting 20 years for firing a warning shot vs an armed Zimmerman killing someone from a encounter he started by following an unarmed kid walking around exactly when folks are out. NOT say 3am.
 
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there also was a witness that saw Zimmerman on top beating Martin. there also was a witness that heard conversation from final minutes.

bottom line was defense did a much better job at discrediting witness against them than prosecution did in favor. think how different trial would have ended up had the female black witness been more believable?

all the cards were stacked in favor of defense. bar for murder 2 is so high all they had to do was introduce an element of doubt. defense had no obligation to prove innocence, only establish doubt exist. defense exploited the fact shooting took place in conditions so dark. despite multiple witnesses .. NO one was able to see clear enough to testify without doubt.

prosecution knew all of above .. yet they chose to pursue murder 2 .. knowing it would be all but impossible to secure a conviction. but going after murder 2 sound sooo much better in the media.

there's a possibility Zimmerman murdered Martin and got away with it by using deep legal resources. In no small part by his former Judge dad knowing who to pick for his defense.

a LOT of folks out there think the legal system was gamed!

compare results with the unfortunate women that fired a warning shot at husband with a restraining order .. getting 20 years for firing a warning shot vs an armed Zimmerman killing someone from a encounter he started by following an unarmed kid walking around exactly when folks are out. NOT say 3am.

How in the hell are you finding your information and the prosecution couldn't find it? Why don't we just make **** up as we go... Maybe you need to work for the FBI.
 

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How in the hell are you finding your information and the prosecution couldn't find it? Why don't we just make **** up as we go... Maybe you need to work for the media.

Fixed it for you.

There was never a case against self defense in this matter, and Zimmerman wasn't charged until politics and race got injected into the mix via the media.

The media stirred up plenty of useful idiots with their misrepresentation, manipulation, and outright fabrication of their "facts" of the case.
The defense team did a fine job of exposing the state's case for what it was.

The fact of the matter is that this "outrage" is agenda driven by those who foment it.
They couldn't care less about Trayvon Martin.
This case is being used to make political hay, and the endgame is to restrict our rights.

Where's the outrage to this?:
UPDATE: In 503 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 10,865 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKS
Can you name one name of a black victim killed by another black man in this time frame? Name just one name you outraged fools....

Usual suspects at work:
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The communists have been popping up at all of the protests in force.
Because, you know, capitalism is racist!
Sons of judges and other privileged classes are racist!
 

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How in the hell are you finding your information and the prosecution couldn't find it? Why don't we just make **** up as we go... Maybe you need to work for the FBI.

I've posted very little information in this thread .. as a matter of fact .. pretrial publicity of this case released more information to mass media than any other case that I'm aware of.

prosecution knew very well what witnesses said what .. defense had all of the same info except phone records of martin that was not released until the very last minute.
 

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Would you confront and question someone following you in your neighborhood?

Actually I would but I live in a rural area and am in law enforcement. Before you ask if that person were to attack me and I felt my life was in danger yes I would use deadly force.
 

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there also was a witness that saw Zimmerman on top beating Martin. there also was a witness that heard conversation from final minutes.

bottom line was defense did a much better job at discrediting witness against them than prosecution did in favor. think how different trial would have ended up had the female black witness been more believable?

all the cards were stacked in favor of defense. bar for murder 2 is so high all they had to do was introduce an element of doubt. defense had no obligation to prove innocence, only establish doubt exist. defense exploited the fact shooting took place in conditions so dark. despite multiple witnesses .. NO one was able to see clear enough to testify without doubt.

prosecution knew all of above .. yet they chose to pursue murder 2 .. knowing it would be all but impossible to secure a conviction. but going after murder 2 sound sooo much better in the media.

there's a possibility Zimmerman murdered Martin and got away with it by using deep legal resources. In no small part by his former Judge dad knowing who to pick for his defense.

a LOT of folks out there think the legal system was gamed!

compare results with the unfortunate women that fired a warning shot at husband with a restraining order .. getting 20 years for firing a warning shot vs an armed Zimmerman killing someone from a encounter he started by following an unarmed kid walking around exactly when folks are out. NOT say 3am.

Probably easier to be Believable and credible when telling the truth and not lying
 

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Probably easier to be Believable and credible when telling the truth and not lying

totally agree ... to a certain part of the population, she was very believable. fortunately for defense the 6 women in the jury was not part of that group.

one would think a person that was on the phone with Martin in the minutes immediately before shooting would have an impact on outcome.
 
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You can be penalized in many states for acting in lethal self defense when you are responsible for starting the endeavor that ends in death. This is just not the law in Florida.
GZ didn't start anything. All he did was call the police and try and gather intel for the police until they arrived. When he was told to stop following Martin he did. So how is that doing something wrong? The last time I checked it isn't. I agree that he should have stayed in the car but that wasn't instigating anything. Nor was it starting the ordeal. Martin started it by going over to GZ and getting into it with him.
 
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