Zimmerman Protest At full force

[Fredkrueger100]

what horse crap!!! unless you were there ... you don't know what actually happened. in fact NO one knows what actually happened except for Zimmerman and the other person is dead.

how do you know M punched Z in the nose ... for all we know Z could have wacked himself in the nose and wacked himself in the head. in near total darkness none of the witnesses could clearly see what happened. not being able to prove what happened is a far cry from assuming what Z claimed happened as the truth.

there's a butt-load of inconsistencies in Z's taped testimony. Z claims M hid behind bushes before jumping him... problem is nearest bush is some 25 yards away. there was NO blood splatters found on Z despite claiming to shot M at point blank range... etc. etc... the list of inconsistencies goes on and on a....

but the bottom line is burden of proof for murder 2 belongs to state. bar rightly is pretty high... problems is it was the wrong charge. without question Z initialed the confrontation that ended up shooting M... but don't think anyone believes Z followed M with express purpose of shooting M.

if this happened in Oklahoma ... results would be completely different.

unless I'm mistaken ... it's been drilled into AS folks by cops that hang out here ... for CCW holders burden of proof shooting was justified belongs to the CCW holder.

What you just said is horse crap. It sounds to me like you are defending Martin. I am real sure GZ punched himself in the nose and banged his head into the concrete. Have you even seen the photos? I am real sure he did that to himself. I am glad that GZ was able to do what he did. Martin deserved it. And gloctogo said that GZ didn't act like a responsible ccw holder should act. I beg to differ. I thought he did exactly what any ccw holder should have done. If we had more people that acted like GZ we would have much less crime on our streets. I thought he represented us very well.

 

[Glock]

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I didn't know we could or should be penalized for acting in self defense!

You can be penalized in many states for acting in lethal self defense when you are responsible for starting the endeavor that ends in death. This is just not the law in Florida.

 

[_CY_]

What you just said is horse crap. It sounds to me like you are defending Martin. I am real sure GZ punched himself in the nose and banged his head into the concrete. Have you even seen the photos? I am real sure he did that to himself. I am glad that GZ was able to do what he did. Martin deserved it. And gloctogo said that GZ didn't act like a responsible ccw holder should act. I beg to differ. I thought he did exactly what any ccw holder should have done. If we had more people that acted like GZ we would have much less crime on our streets. I thought he represented us very well.

oh really .. were you there? did you see what happened?

not being able to prove murder 2 is a far cry from Z not doing anything wrong!!!

being favor of our 2A rights has zero .. zip .. nada with Z's trial...

 

[_CY_]

I can not sit here and see someone that is supposed to be for the 2A sit here and say that GZ should have gotten something for using self defense to save his life. Since when is following someone to not lose sight of them a crime? How is that wrong? I probably would have done the same thing. But for you to sit here and say that he was in the wrong is unreal. What else did GZ do wrong? You said that he did all sorts of things wrong so what were they? The last time I checked he didn't do anything "wrong". Should he have gotten out of the car? Probably not. But that isn't doing something wrong. That isn't a crime to follow someone. Especially when you are on the phone with the police. And he didn't continue to follow Martin after the dispatcher told him not to. He stopped. That was proven. Martin is the one that did all the wrong. And that is why GZ was found not guilty. He had no guilt. So you think he should have gotten something for exercising his 2A rights? Who's side are you on? Because it sure doesn't sound like you are on the 2A side.

being in favor of our 2A rights has NOTHING ... nada .. zero to do with Zimmerman trial!!!

unless you were there .. there is NO way you categorically know what happened. not being able to meet the very high bar for murder 2 doesn't not mean Z did nothing wrong!!

anyone packing heat has an extra duty to avoid any confrontation that has a high probability of escalating. you cannot say following someone in near total darkness is a prudent thing to do for someone packing heat!!!

especially if one knows cops are en route, within minutes of arriving... and advised by 911 dispatch he did not need to be following.

 

[Biggsly]

What Zimmerman did is not how a responsible CCW'er should act. What Martin did was not how any person should act. What the state did to Zimmerman is a travesty. What the federal government is currently doing to him is reprehensible.

No one wins, which is why it's so VERY critical to be beyond reproach when carrying.

I agree.

 

[tran]

They want nothing more that to push this BS to show how bad the white man is, In the case the Hispanic man is. Blame everyone but who needed to be blamed! Welcome to the new America... If any other group would attempt this you would be nothing more than a RACIST! what BS...

 

[gun001guns]

You can be penalized in many states for acting in lethal self defense when you are responsible for starting the endeavor that ends in death. This is just not the law in Florida.

Following someone is not a crime and obliviously his actions are what in the end lead to the death of Martin. It was Martins actions of confronting the guy who was observing him from a distance and the assault he put on Zimmerman that caused his death. If I see someone who I think is about to commit a crime I can observe them as a witness and if during that observation they attack me and I fear for my life and kill them I'm not blame. That's about the dumbest nonsense I've heard lately!

 

[gun001guns]

oh really .. were you there? did you see what happened?

not being able to prove murder 2 is a far cry from Z not doing anything wrong!!!

being favor of our 2A rights has zero .. zip .. nada with Z's trial...

About as much as race does!

 

[RickN]

Folks there was one witness that saw Martin on top of Zimmerman beating him. They did not see the start of the fight but they did see that.

 

[Biggsly]

About as much as race does!

I agree.