Ryan wins VP Debate!!!

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Cedar Creek

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Joe is being more vice-presidential. He has highjacked the debate by intimidating the moderator - she is allowing him to run roughshod over the debate format and take over. Or maybe she can't call him down because he looks like her PawPaw.
 

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The problem with national health care is that once in place it will, probably rapidly, grow to become the single biggest part of the government outlays - and it becomes untouchable as an entitlement. Any attempt to modify health care, once defined as a "right" provided by government, becomes an attempt to kill granny and with everyone dependent upon it and able to vote themselves increasing benefits what would be the incentive to stop?
 

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One of our senior members used to go to the family DR. in the past to get a blood work. recently he and his wife went back to do the same thing. The DR could no longer do this, and they had to go to a hospital, go through the check in process like they were going to get surgery and sit for hours in a waiting room for help.

The DR said that obummer care was what caused this.........isn't that great.
 

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