What you post on Facebook affects your hiring/promotion/legal outcome?

[Garand]

Case in point...

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Lindsey Stone: Woman Fired From Job After Posting ‘Offensive’ Photo to Facebook Page


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[ripnbst]

^That is extremely disrespectful to those who have died so that she has the ability to take that picture and behave like the jerk she is.

Bet she thought it would be hilarious, wonder how hard she was laughing as she cleaned out her office?

I'd have fired her too, if I lived in a state where it was legal to do so. Having family members who fought for this country, this picture gets my blood pressure up a little.

 

[dennishoddy]

Just don't sign up for FB...

There.

Problem solved.

Not only do you not have to worry about your boss spying on you you avoid entering the largest repository and distributor or computer viruses, trojans, malware, spyware etc on the internet.

And why would anyone want to reconnect with someone they made no effort to stay connected with for the past 20, 30, 40.... years?

Wierd.
Just plain wierd.

That said:

Man! I wish I'd thought of it!

Isn't that the truth. The only time I've lost a hard drive is after the couple of times that I got on FB. That place sucks.

 

[dennishoddy]

I'm not allowed to say 85.7% of the things I want to say on here.

Go ahead and do it.
Remember, your incognito?

 

[ratski]

Unless you have a written employment agreement guaranteeing you a specific term, Oklahoma is an at-will employment state. In other words, employers generally can fire you at any time and for any reason (the only exceptions to this are federally protected reasons, such as firing you because you are old, a minority, handicapped, etc.). So it really doesn't matter if they don't like you facebook posts, or they don't like the way you parted your hair that day, they can fire you and its perfectly legal.

Its interesting to see how facebook posts are going to be used against people in court. Oklahoma hasn't addressed this, but I saw a case from another jurisdiction recently talking about your private posts versus if your posts are public, can what is used in there be used as evidence in Court. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the future.

Well, I have personally been down this road. As the employer.

Employee had a public facebook account. Someone alerted me to some of the postings. Not only were they derogatory to my reputation, but they revealed an entirely different character about her.


Several of her posts involved her bragging to her friends about how she was going to quit her job during the holidays, but not until after the bonus checks were handed out just so she could mess up my office.

Her facebook postings were used to deny her claim for unemployment compensation.

Even though Oklahoma is at-will for firing, it is rare for Oklahoma to side with an employer in the case of firing a person and denying them unemployment compensation. So, the rates that an employer pays are increased after a "successful" unemployment claim by a fired employee. That leads to less available to other employees for benefits. etc etc.

To give you an example, I had an employee walk out of my office without notice who claimed that she was fired. I have the entire event recorded and the unemployment people STILL awarded her unemployment compensation.

To quote them "we aren't here for employers".

As an employer, if your facebook is public than I am going to look at it. If your posts lead me to the conclusion that you are lieing to me or slandering me, there is no good reason for me to continue your employment.

It is a two edged sword to see a facebook account. I will not accept friend requests on my page from employees. I think that is crossing a line that is difficult. But, as an employer I should be able to use whatever I need to to judge a potential employees character. If I have narcotics around the office and see someone posting about getting high after swiping a bunch of samples from their previous office, I don't want that headache. I don't need that headache.

Bottom line, don't put something out there on "the internets" that you would want your employer to read.

As an employer, you and I have made an agreement. You are selling me your time for X amount of dollars. As long as you are selling me your time, and I am paying you for that time, then I get to decide how you are going to use that time. If you want to get on facebook, don't do it on my time equipment that I have paid for. Do it on your time.

Dave

Dave

 

[Lurker66]

So you spy on your employees when they are on theyre own time? Do you think its right to evesdrop on enployees if you see them at wal-mart or a restraunt? Is it right to stalk a person who works for you? Tap a phone, or entrap a person? How about hiring a snitch or plant to get the scoop? Place camaras or recording devices in public or shared areas such as restrooms, cafaterias or breakrooms?

People ***** about theyre job to freinds all the time in public places and off the clock. Thats not a crime. What a person does off the clock is knowbodys business, which is why they usually win unemployment claims.

Some day workers will learn how to use laws for their benefit when employers go out of theyre way to control them. Laws usually work both ways.

IMO, as long as busnesses has the "right" to fire for any reason, workers should have the right to collect for any reason.

 

[rhodesbe]

^^^ spying is not the same as "blabbing so anyone/everyone can hear it".

 

[Lurker66]

Kinda splitting hairs, i geuss observing or watching might sound better. Spys gather information, boss's surf FB looking for dirt or being nosey.

 

[ratski]

So you spy on your employees when they are on theyre own time? Do you think its right to evesdrop on enployees if you see them at wal-mart or a restraunt? Is it right to stalk a person who works for you? Tap a phone, or entrap a person? How about hiring a snitch or plant to get the scoop? Place camaras or recording devices in public or shared areas such as restrooms, cafaterias or breakrooms?

People ***** about theyre job to freinds all the time in public places and off the clock. Thats not a crime. What a person does off the clock is knowbodys business, which is why they usually win unemployment claims.

Some day workers will learn how to use laws for their benefit when employers go out of theyre way to control them. Laws usually work both ways.

IMO, as long as busnesses has the "right" to fire for any reason, workers should have the right to collect for any reason.

Sorry, but slander, libel, defamation of character and maliciously impacting someone's professional reputation are certainly in the realm of crimes.

Just because someone is "on their own time" does not mean that what they do has no impact on their work or employment.

Try using that excuse when you get a DUI.

You can ***** and complain all you want in a public place. But remember, that is public and when it impacts someone's reputation, that crosses a line. In private, that is a different set of circumstances. I public, you have no reasonable assumption of privacy.

As an employer and owner, I think that I have every right to protect my investment. Unlike some other might think, I did build it. You are more than welcome to exercise your freedom of choice and not work for me.

You might think differently when it is your name, your reputation and your investment that is at stake.

 

[AKguy1985]

1. keep your facebook page private, to where nobody but your friends can see it.
2. Don't friend your boss or HR manager
3. Dont post anything stupid.