Egypt on the brink

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Gideon

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Well, we do send $1.5 billion a year over there...

Also for consideration:

Recent coup in Honduras.
Musharraf in Pakistan (recently, not current).
Saleh in Yemen.
The Saudi Royal Family.
Somoza and sons in Nicaragua.
Pinochet in Chile.
Savimbi in Angola.

The list goes on...
 

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Has anyone given serious thought to what it would mean to oil prices if the suez canal is no longer safe for shipping because of this mess. As a result, we can look for gas prices to reach $6 to $7 per gallon this year. All products and services we take for granted will be impacted, requiring many of us to make lifestyle changes. The price of food could raise 30 percent, while airline travel will soon become an endangered species. I was in florida when they rationed gas to 5 gal. per visit. Lines at stations were 3-5 blks long. I saw a guy shoot another guy for cutting in line. Regular gas was $4.86 a gal. Food prices went up overnight which sparked a run on stores for staple goods. Lumber prices went up 600% because truckers could not get loads out of florida. Our country has BIG problems now, imagine having this senario dumped on our economy. I noticed from reading about fires that a few of you commute long distance to work as do i. Can you imagine your 8-10 hour day turned into 13 hours because of lines at fuel pumps. Does your vechicle use more than 5 gals round trip? Can you afford $15-$20K for a gas sipper on top of your car pymt now? What do you think your 12-18 mpg truck will be worth on trade in for that gas sipper? So you decide to stay in town during the week & work, who will guard your stuff from the scumbags who will be roaming the countryside looking to steal anything they can sell? I dont have any good answers as to what should be done, our involvement as a country would probably start WW3 in the middle east. Doesnt really matter because our prez is not going to do anything other than lip service.(do google on prez bowing to saudi king)! I drive a cng vechicle, fuel in tulsa currently $0.75 gal. so gasoline wont be a problem for me but i have to eat also & that is a problem. Not trying to be doom & gloom here but as an old grumpy fart would like to open some eyes. Hope this post gets your hiney puckered cause thats when you get really creative! Always keep your powder dry & your weapon clean. Grumps
 

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Has anyone given serious thought to what it would mean to oil prices if the suez canal is no longer safe for shipping because of this mess. As a result, we can look for gas prices to reach $6 to $7 per gallon this year. All products and services we take for granted will be impacted, requiring many of us to make lifestyle changes. The price of food could raise 30 percent, while airline travel will soon become an endangered species. I was in florida when they rationed gas to 5 gal. per visit. Lines at stations were 3-5 blks long. I saw a guy shoot another guy for cutting in line. Regular gas was $4.86 a gal. Food prices went up overnight which sparked a run on stores for staple goods. Lumber prices went up 600% because truckers could not get loads out of florida. Our country has BIG problems now, imagine having this senario dumped on our economy. I noticed from reading about fires that a few of you commute long distance to work as do i. Can you imagine your 8-10 hour day turned into 13 hours because of lines at fuel pumps. Does your vechicle use more than 5 gals round trip? Can you afford $15-$20K for a gas sipper on top of your car pymt now? What do you think your 12-18 mpg truck will be worth on trade in for that gas sipper? So you decide to stay in town during the week & work, who will guard your stuff from the scumbags who will be roaming the countryside looking to steal anything they can sell? I dont have any good answers as to what should be done, our involvement as a country would probably start WW3 in the middle east. Doesnt really matter because our prez is not going to do anything other than lip service.(do google on prez bowing to saudi king)! I drive a cng vechicle, fuel in tulsa currently $0.75 gal. so gasoline wont be a problem for me but i have to eat also & that is a problem. Not trying to be doom & gloom here but as an old grumpy fart would like to open some eyes. Hope this post gets your hiney puckered cause thats when you get really creative! Always keep your powder dry & your weapon clean. Grumps

A very thoughtful and well considered 2nd post! Welcome to the forums. And I agree, some changes are definately afoot. That little EV car I bought as a tax credit might just come in very handy soon.
 

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Maybe if oil prices go up and the Canal is shut down, it will force us to be more efficient and thoughtful of our wasteful lifestyles...

I see nothing bad coming from this, except more impetus to get away from foreign energy reliance.
 

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Maybe if oil prices go up and the Canal is shut down, it will force us to be more efficient and thoughtful of our wasteful lifestyles...

I see nothing bad coming from this, except more impetus to get away from foreign energy reliance.

Tell me you are joking, you really think that the country is in position to go through a huge oil hike? It takes decades to get geared up to produce our own oil, but that is not even the point the price hike alone will finish us off. What you see in Egypt will be what happens here.
OT for a minute for an interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/user/fiercefreeleancer
 

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Maybe if oil prices go up and the Canal is shut down, it will force us to be more efficient and thoughtful of our wasteful lifestyles...

I see nothing bad coming from this, except more impetus to get away from foreign energy reliance.

The idea that individual consumers are responsible for the majority of waste and mass consumption is the product of intellectual blame shifting. The majority of all pollution is corporate and the majority of a cost of a gallon of fuel is taxes individual consumers are denied access to real world technologies by greedy corporations and the stooges they pay to put into office.

If anyone really cared about our gross level of dependence on foreign oil the billionaire petro brokers and companies would be banned from our economy and the government would either do away with it's $1.20 per gallon fuel taxes or turn that money towards the development of a hydrogen based national fuel delivery system.In the interim there would be compressed natural gas stations on every street corner that could easily be converted to hydrogen delivery once the infrastructure was developed.

Trying to tell Americans to "tighten their belts" is a bunch of crap. We are the victims in a con game, denied new technologies for years to milk the old ones for every dime and made to pay the bill for the whole world. We have paid Billions of our tax dollars to Egypt and Israel and they should guarantee our continued access to the Suez Canal at all costs.
 

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We have paid Billions of our tax dollars to Egypt and Israel and they should guarantee our continued access to the Suez Canal at all costs.

This. How many times have seen seen the same nonsense played out at Camp David: The Egyptians, the Israelis and the Palestinians are given many billions of dollars in aid as a bribe to sign a peace agreement to make an American president look good. Look what it bought us.
 

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This. How many times have seen seen the same nonsense played out at Camp David: The Egyptians, the Israelis and the Palestinians are given many billions of dollars in aid as a bribe to sign a peace agreement to make an American president look good. Look what it bought us.

actually, as far as the Egypt and Israel are concerned, the Camp David Accords were very successful. They haven't fought since.
 

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This. How many times have seen seen the same nonsense played out at Camp David: The Egyptians, the Israelis and the Palestinians are given many billions of dollars in aid as a bribe to sign a peace agreement to make an American president look good. Look what it bought us.

If we told Israel to kick the **** out of all comers and seize the Suez Canal and they had our 100% backing in the form of battleships and airpower they would say "yes sir, right away sir, please keep the money coming sir".

We give the rest of the boobs money and they openly allow terrorist groups that kill Americans to come and go as they please!
 

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