Mary Fallin For Governer?

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Werewolf said:
If one is going to vote a single issue then the 2nd's the one to do it with.

A politician's stand on the 2nd tells all about the way they feel about the people.

To make a long discussion short:

Pro 2nd equates to trust of the people.
Anti 2nd equates to lack to no trust of the people.

We can all do our best to vote more than a single issue but when push comes to shove the 2nd is the bell weather. If a pol isn't pro 2nd they don't get my vote and that means pro 2nd by deed as well as word not the weasle pro 2nd most dems including the obamanation pretend to be.

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A "one issue" voter? Not usually, but when the issue so blatantly violates the COTUS, I become such a voter.
Abortion, gay rights, health care, none of those are black and white constitutional issues. They can be argued either way with merit.
The bailout? No constitutional basis whatsoever. None. Anyone that voted for it, including Fallin an Coburn, will never get my vote.
At what point do we start holding these people responsible? Fallin screwed up. Badly. We need to let her know so. Not by electing her to another office, but by letting her walk. Kick her out and let her know why.
I really don't care why she voted the way she did. She was wrong, and has no justification for doing so. It's time we stood up to the people that are destroying this country and tell them we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more!

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And the way to do that is to vote for Askins who had she been in Congress instead of Fallin would have been up on the speakers platform with her lips firmly pressed against Pelosi's behind thanking her for the opportunity to prove her loyalty to the socialist democratic party of the US.

There's no way anyone could ever convince me Askins wouldn't have voted for the bailout. She would have and done it with gusto and relished the action.

God hisself could tell me Askins wouldn't have and I spit in his eye.

<stated while looking around to make sure the sky isn't darking and listening for thunder>
 

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And the way to do that is to vote for Askins who had she been in Congress instead of Fallin would have been up on the speakers platform with her lips firmly pressed against Pelosi's behind thanking her for the opportunity to prove her loyalty to the socialist democratic party of the US.

There's no way anyone could ever convince me Askins wouldn't have voted for the bailout. She would have and done it with gusto and relished the action.

God hisself could tell me Askins wouldn't have and I spit in his eye.

<stated while looking around to make sure the sky isn't darking and listening for thunder>

WW, while I see your point and agree with it (with caveats, of course) I simply can not vote against someone based on what they MIGHT have done, then turn right around and vote FOR someone that did do it.
At what point do we start telling people like Fallin that they will be held responsible for their votes? If we vote for them, isn't that the same as approving of their voting record? How will they ever learn?
We're not talking about a simple vote of no consequence that really has no effect in the long run. We're talking about a clear and obvious violation of her oath of office. She MUST be held accountable.
She will NOT get my vote. Ever.
 

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WW, while I see your point and agree with it (with caveats, of course) I simply can not vote against someone based on what they MIGHT have done, then turn right around and vote FOR someone that did do it.
At what point do we start telling people like Fallin that they will be held responsible for their votes? If we vote for them, isn't that the same as approving of their voting record? How will they ever learn?
We're not talking about a simple vote of no consequence that really has no effect in the long run. We're talking about a clear and obvious violation of her oath of office. She MUST be held accountable.
She will NOT get my vote. Ever.

I agree, some how we must send a message to our elected representatives that they will be held accountable for their actions and votes while they represent us.

I just don't know how to do that. Would that I did. (suggestions, anyone, Buehler? Buehler?)

What I do know is that voting for Askins to teach Fallin a lesson is - to use a phrase I heard often enough as a child - biting off our nose to spite our face.

As long as the dems continue to be socialists in sheeps clothing, looking to grow government, buy votes by bankrupting it with ever more entitlements none of them will ever, ever get my vote.

As the Chinese say we live in interesting times. I imagine that within the next 50 years or so an active solution to the dilema noted above will be acted upon - at that point the times will be more interesting.
 

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I agree, some how we must send a message to our elected representatives that they will be held accountable for their actions and votes while they represent us.

I just don't know how to do that. Would that I did. (suggestions, anyone, Buehler? Buehler?)

What I do know is that voting for Askins to teach Fallin a lesson is - to use a phrase I heard often enough as a child - biting off our nose to spite our face.

As long as the dems continue to be socialists in sheeps clothing, looking to grow government, buy votes by bankrupting it with ever more entitlements none of them will ever, ever get my vote.

As the Chinese say we live in interesting times. I imagine that within the next 50 years or so an active solution to the dilema noted above will be acted upon - at that point the times will be more interesting.

Biting off your nose to spite your face, maybe.
Doing what you've always done and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

Askins scares me. I know very little about her even though she has been in politics a long time. Is she a closet socialist? Maybe. She doesn't talk like one.
Fallin scares me. She won't do the right thing when the time comes. She follows the crowd and does the wrong thing instead of following the Constitution. She talks like a conservative but doesn't act or vote like one.

Lesser of the two evils. Not any more. I won't vote for that again. The status quo has got to change. We're in deep doo-doo and we have got to start now fixing this mess. Askins isn't the fix, but neither is Fallin. We know she has no respect for her oath of office or the constitution.

Term limits. We need term limits. It will fix 90% of our problems. But we will never get it because the folks in DC will never vote themselves out of a job.

Viva la revolution!!

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them . . . . .

The real class separation is between the folks we elected and we, the voters. It's time to dissolve the band between us.
 

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Well, how about some of you man up and go talk to Mary. I was a Brogdon supporter, but have known Mary for years. If you have a problem with her voting for the Bailout, try to talk to her about it, ask her why? And dont be a jerk about it, just ask as a concerned citizen. That's what I did, and put in her situation, I probably would have done the same thing, if you don't know all the facts, it does look bad. I wont go into details, because its not my place. She's a lot more conservative than a lot of people give her credit for. I think some people will be pleasantly surprised during her time as governor.

Pretty much sums up my thinking, She admits the bailout vote was a mistake on her part, but she really thought she was doing the right thing for the time. I think she will be a fine Governor
 

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