Syria mess, how far do we go.?

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Let the sand people fix their own crap. If we came in, destroyed the regime, instituted our idea of democracy and buy everyone a house,

Gadhafi did that in Lybia and we still killed him.


Moammar Gadhafi, the former leader of Libya, was executed after being captured alive near his hometown of Sirte. Video footage shows a bloodied Qaddafi pleading for his life before asking the fighters who captured him, "Do you know what's right or wrong?" Press reports indicate that he was targeted by French and U.S. aircraft and drones shortly before being captured.
Why was Gadhafi summarily executed? Who wanted him dead before he could be put on trial?
What does this say about NATO and the people who will take control of Libya? --Christopher Bollyn
1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
3. Home considered a human right in Libya Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi's father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.
4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms all for free.
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion now frozen globally. Great Man-Made River project in Libya $27 billion.
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
16. Gaddafi carried out the world's largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
Which other dictator has done so much good for his people?
THE BRUTAL MURDER of Muammar Gaddafi by Zionist-owned Libyan insurgents is an example of what happens to political leaders who defy international Jewish bankers.
Gaddafi refused to do the bidding of the Rothschild-centered global banking cartel in 5 areas: ·
A Gaddafi-Centered African Union With A Common Currency·
A Gaddafi-Run Central Bank Of Libya·
A Gaddafi-Holding Of 150 Tons Of Gold·
A Gaddafi-Run Libyan Oil Industry·
A Gaddafi-Run 'Blue-Gold' Water Reserves

BTW, what happened to the gold? Poof, into thin air, gone. Just like the 30 tons of gold Ukraine had after we started helping them.

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Gadhafi did that in Lybia and we still killed him.


Moammar Gadhafi, the former leader of Libya, was executed after being captured alive near his hometown of Sirte. Video footage shows a bloodied Qaddafi pleading for his life before asking the fighters who captured him, "Do you know what's right or wrong?" Press reports indicate that he was targeted by French and U.S. aircraft and drones shortly before being captured.
Why was Gadhafi summarily executed? Who wanted him dead before he could be put on trial?
What does this say about NATO and the people who will take control of Libya? --Christopher Bollyn
1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.
2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law.
3. Home considered a human right in Libya Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi's father has died while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent.
4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.
5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%.
6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms all for free.
7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it not only free but they get US$2,300/mth accommodation and car allowance.
8. In Libyan, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price.
9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.
10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion now frozen globally. Great Man-Made River project in Libya $27 billion.
11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.
12. A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.
13. A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000
14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $ 0.15
15. 25% of Libyans have a university degree
16. Gaddafi carried out the world's largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.
Which other dictator has done so much good for his people?
THE BRUTAL MURDER of Muammar Gaddafi by Zionist-owned Libyan insurgents is an example of what happens to political leaders who defy international Jewish bankers.
Gaddafi refused to do the bidding of the Rothschild-centered global banking cartel in 5 areas: ·
A Gaddafi-Centered African Union With A Common Currency·
A Gaddafi-Run Central Bank Of Libya·
A Gaddafi-Holding Of 150 Tons Of Gold·
A Gaddafi-Run Libyan Oil Industry·
A Gaddafi-Run 'Blue-Gold' Water Reserves

BTW, what happened to the gold? Poof, into thin air, gone. Just like the 30 tons of gold Ukraine had after we started helping them.

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Your blatant anti-Semitism is disturbing and disgusting.
Genesis 12:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
 

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Your blatant anti-Semitism is disturbing and disgusting.
Genesis 12:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Please explain. I see no anti-Semitisim, just facts.



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Trump isn't going to do anything really stupid. Last I heard a group of people were headed there to confirm the gas attack. If they determine it was staged like some sources are saying Trump will back off.
 

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I've always been pro-Israel because not only the Christian thing, but they are a secular, prosperous nation in the middle of an area run by religious zealots that hate them. I respect their plight. I used to also get upset when people would say "zionist" and such. But I think that is separate from the jewish ethnicity. I believe it is an ideology/policy similar to if you said "the democrats", "the globalists", etc. Under my current understanding, anyone who subscribes and advances a certain agenda would fall under that moniker, even if they were not jewish. I too think a lot gets blamed on jews when in fact if there are conspiratorial folks that happen to be jewish, it doesn't mean that all conspiratorial folks are, nor does it mean the majority of that ethic group are involved.

I will never defend antisemitism because I definitely don't agree with it. I'm simply applying my recent understanding of this topic based on my own trying to understand why the far right seems to express negativity towards this particular group. In actuality, I discovered only the dumb people in that camp make it about ethnicity and actually the more informed ones seem to concentrate on an ideology that isn't part of the ethos or religion. So for example, John Bolton believes in putting Israel's interests ahead of the United States at all costs...he isn't an American Nationalist. If Israel (or Britain for that matter) were to do something in Syria to start a war w/ Russia, and then expect us to use up all our resources & American lives to help them even if they were morally wrong, Bolton and those that think like him would EXPECT us to do so without any thought. Anyone who questions it would be labeled an anti-Semite just like we've seen in this thread. It is a tactic of the left when applied to other topics and it is a very effective tactic to crush debate. If the guy had said he wished harm on a group or hated them, or whatever, then I'd oppose. But if he is just saying he disagrees with an ideology that doesn't put American interests first, I must at least offer up that I don't think he "meant" to be anti-Semitic.

Qaddafi, let women drive, go to college, drink, etc...Qaddafi, Assad, and Saddam are/were much more in line with tolerant American values than the people we are trying to install & support...the rebels in Syria and Lybia were all terrorists and 0bama supported them with funding & weapons...now Trump wants to be their air force...do you really still think he was being anti-semetic or was he pointing out legitimate topics of discussion?...none the less, since people (including myself) still associate that term w/ being anti-Israel, I do see why it caused a reaction. I just think it means "globalist" and really should not have much to do w/ jews. In closing I'll say that I do like netanyahu alright and I will support Israel if/when its enemies surround it for battle. But in the mean time I won't support Sunni muslim terrorists regardless of what people like Bolton and Hilary and others say is best. wake up...evolve...you can be against globalism w/out hating jews...I love anyone who shares our western values regardless who they are!
 
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But I think that is separate from the jewish ethnicity. I believe it is an ideology/policy similar to if you said "the democrats", "the globalists", etc. Under my current understanding, anyone who subscribes and advances a certain agenda would fall under that moniker, even if they were not jewish.
correct, the official agenda of zionism was establishing and then maintaining a jewish state, but there are christian zionists, hindu zionists and muslim zionists. Their reasons vary.
Interestingly, the same is true about the anti-zionists. They too have varying reasons for it.
 

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