Teachers And Staff With Guns. Could It Work In Oklahoma?

[tRidiot]

Ok, so now we have some middle ground. I concur with THIS statement if that were actually occurring. Many of the people leaving the system do not have a basic skills education. It seems that time spent on reading, writing, mathematics, science, and history takes a back seat to the importance of 'socialization'. Many of the "administrators" are the problem, and are likely unnecessary.

I think this is another case of a service that would be MUCH more effective if the .gov wasn't involved. As long as it is paid for by threat of force it will just get worse.

You are welcome. Well we may not completely agree, it was informative.

THIS x eleventy-billion.

I can tell you, my son goes to a private school and he is being taught high-quality, useful info, he is getting MINIMAL socialist ******** and he is doing EXTREMELY well. This school's graduating senior class last year had an AVERAGE ACT score of like 27 I think. Sure wish we had those tax vouchers for schools. Dang. Would be nice. But either way, it's worth it not to have my son in the public school system. Ugh.

 

[rawhide]

I think the issue for this thread is gun-free zones and school security.

 

[Old Fart]

One way or another, Oklahoma public school patrons will pay more for student safety

One city at a time, one school district at a time, buildings that house students will include provisions for a shelter. But it would take decades before all school buildings in the state have safe rooms or tornado shelters.



Oklahoma City will now require shelters for new schools, with a city council vote Tuesday affecting 24 school districts. That so many districts have a footprint in one city is another reminder of the surfeit of districts in this state. But that’s a topic for another time.

The council’s vote to require shelters in new schools will affect only schools constructed within the city limits. Thus, a Putnam City district school may or may not be subject to the requirement. And no provision is being made to retrofit existing schools with shelters.

Two competing plans for retrofitting are extant. One would ask voters to approve a statewide bond issue to fund shelters. The other would allow individual districts to increase bonding capacities beyond statutory limits, to fund shelters or safe rooms. The latter is the better approach, but either plan would result in years of unprotected schools because it would take years to build the shelters.

Some districts already have a policy of equipping new schools with shelters, but few have a plan for retrofitting older schools. Rare is the city in which building codes require new schools to include shelters.

The council’s vote reflects a new reality among politicians that school safety is a paramount issue in the wake of last May’s tornado in Moore that took the lives of seven grade school students.

The 2014 governor’s race already carries a strong connection to the two competing shelter plans noted above.

What happened in a few moments in Moore vivified a dormant issue. One way or another, patrons will pay more for school structures to prevent a recurrence of those deadly moments.

http://newsok.com/one-way-or-anothe...l-pay-more-for-student-safety/article/3938085


Added this because safe rooms could be used as escape locations.

 

[Arin Morris]

Added this because safe rooms could be used as escape locations.

or a death chamber...

 

[dutchwrangler]

In that case you would be fine with no police on the streets. No roads to drive on and no traffic signals. No military to protect your freedoms. No prisons to house criminals. No one to inspect the food that you eat everyday. No water coming out of your faucet. The list goes on. Do I think we are taxed too much? Yes. However, having no taxes at all just wouldn't work. You're an idiot if you think it would.

Yes. Just like those who took up arms to live a life of freedom from government some 200+ years ago. Study anarcho-capitalism and free markets and perhaps you'll modify your views. Perhaps even encourage your wife to give up her socialist government job in favor of a free market teaching job in a private school. This forum is heavily populated by socialists gun owners who have no problem disregarding the natural law of "thou shalt not steal" for their pet interests... namely the ability to have arms in their possession but at the dismissal of the number one right of property, which is what money happens to be. Each and every person who advocates that property be taken from another and redistributed to others is a socialist/communist. It is what it is...

 

[jakerz]

Yes. Just like those who took up arms to live a life of freedom from government some 200+ years ago. Study anarcho-capitalism and free markets and perhaps you'll modify your views. Perhaps even encourage your wife to give up her socialist government job in favor of a free market teaching job in a private school. This forum is heavily populated by socialists gun owners who have no problem disregarding the natural law of "thou shalt not steal" for their pet interests... namely the ability to have arms in their possession but at the dismissal of the number one right of property, which is what money happens to be. Each and every person who advocates that property be taken from another and redistributed to others is a socialist/communist. It is what it is...

If you're talking about the American Revolution, it wasn't about freedom from government. It was because we were being taxed without representation in parliament. We wanted to form a Republic to govern ourselves. What we have today is far from a Republic. We're getting totally off subject though. Or I am anyway.

 

[rawhide]

If you're talking about the American Revolution, it wasn't about freedom from government. It was because we were being taxed without representation in parliament. We wanted to form a Republic to govern ourselves. What we have today is far from a Republic. We're getting totally off subject though. Or I am anyway.

Got there a long time ago.

 

[jakerz]

Got there a long time ago.

Yeah. I apologize.

 

[Werewolf]

In that case you would be fine with no police on the streets. No roads to drive on and no traffic signals. No military to protect your freedoms. No prisons to house criminals. No one to inspect the food that you eat everyday. No water coming out of your faucet. The list goes on. Do I think we are taxed too much? Yes. However, having no taxes at all just wouldn't work. You're an idiot if you think it would.

If one took the time to think about it there is not a single service on the list above that couldn't be provided by private enterprise. NOT ONE. And yes that even includes the military.

 

[jakerz]

If one took the time to think about it there is not a single service on the list above that couldn't be provided by private enterprise. NOT ONE. And yes that even includes the military.

You're right. Who wouldn't want a group like Blackwater defending our freedom?