Election 2012.......................We all lose.
+1 Does it matter which Ar$e we vote for anymore, we ALL lose!!!!
Election 2012.......................We all lose.
It works for me, I don't agree with the other side.Gridlock is just kicking the can, if theres an issue that needs resolved, resolve it the best ya can.
Its not expecting to much of our senators, congressmen and president to negotiate. Whats the point of voting them out if we just replace them with more stubborn, rhetoric spewing, flip flopping, politicians whos only purpose is to block the other side.
HackerF15E said:No write-in? No other parties on the ballot besides those two?
I'm keeping a secret.
It works for me, I don't agree with the other side.
You are probably right. I am old, set in my ways and just generally cantankerous, what the heck ever that means.im sure there is some common ground. Unless you just wont admit it or not agreeing to spite the other side.
Couldn't agree more taaz. The country is in the shape that it's in because we have the same people doing the same things and expecting different results. When we lived in MI, they had term limits of 8 years for the legislators. They said that was a problem because they are just starting to learn the ropes at 8 years when their time is up. MI seems to be surviving okay or at least no worse than the rest of the country. Maybe at the national level they would need twelve years or so. No more and no lifetime retirement or benefits. Let them pay into a 401k and draw it at 65!One year into eithers term and we will all see ourselves losing much. We need to address the career politicians in the house and the senate aswell.
^^This, you haven't begun to see how destructive obama can be.Wait till he has nothing to lose(can't be reelected).
This has to be one of the most ridiculous arguments that I've ever heard, yet it keeps getting repeated as some rationale for an opportunity for a 2nd term Obama to take extreme measures that he was "too timid" to attack in this term.
No, Obama could not get elected again if he was in a 2nd term -- but there are tons of other Democrats who can. Both parties remember what happened in the 1994 elections and the 2010 elections -- mid-term elections in which members of the President's party were slaughtered at the polls for their State and Congressional seats. Those other politicians paid for the mis-steps of the President. It's a VERY recent memory for the Obama Administration that provided some instant feedback for how Americans felt about getting health care reform crammed down their throats.
The Democratic Party and everyone in Obama's Administration knows that if he tries a stunt like this again, Democrats all over the country will pay dearly. They will not let him clown it up for everyone.