It is not unlicensed open carry. One would still need to get a training certificate from an NRA or CLEET instructor. This certification would be much like the hunters education card, it would state you are familiar with the laws and know how to safely handle a firearm. This would have to be carried with you.
I doubt it's sabotage. Russell has been trying to get this same language passed for 2 or 3 years now. This language passed the Senate last year with on 4 No votes. The house never heard it.
The two week deadline was to get out of committee. It is out of committee so that deadline no longer applies. Steve Russell is a very sharp guy and VERY pro gun. Im going to give him the benefit of the doubt and trust he knows what he is doing here.
One week to get things out of committee, then until April 26 to get it passed by the chamber. I do not know how a conference committee would factor into this. Also the Senate version is still a viable option in the House.
During the meeting Russell said he thought both bills should go to conference committee. Then the conference committee could pull the best things from each bill together and come up with the best possible bill for the citizens of Oklahoma.
Can the new language still be taken out by the Senate, before the final vote?
In my opinion, with the new Senate language inserted... 'open carry' is D.O.A.. stick a fork in it, it is done!
As hard as it was to get enough people on board [given the number of legislators who give so much weight to the crying & moaning of left leaning LEO's and anti-gun people] permitless 'open carry' will never pass with only needing a training cetificate from the NRA or CLEET. A NRA or C.L.E.E.T. Certificate is just that a 'certificate of training'.... not a permit,
Most legislators want the background checks and the strict regulations required for concealed carry to apply to open carry too.
Also, most members the legislature wants the revenue coming in from SDA pemit sales!
If Russel was really pro-gun and had a lick of common sense, he would have gone for a virtual sure thing with the open carry by permit.. then when it proved itself in a few years... introduced a bill to make it permitless.
In my opinion, with the new Senate language inserted... 'open carry' is D.O.A.. stick a fork in it, it is done!
As hard as it was to get enough people on board [given the number of legislators who give so much weight to the crying & moaning of left leaning LEO's and anti-gun people] permitless 'open carry' will never pass with only needing a training cetificate from the NRA or CLEET. A NRA or C.L.E.E.T. Certificate is just that a 'certificate of training'.... not a permit,
Most legislators want the background checks and the strict regulations required for concealed carry to apply to open carry too.
Also, most members the legislature wants the revenue coming in from SDA pemit sales!
If Russel was really pro-gun and had a lick of common sense, he would have gone for a virtual sure thing with the open carry by permit.. then when it proved itself in a few years... introduced a bill to make it permitless.
Unfortunately, I'm afraid you are right on the money here. We have lost our 2A rights steps at a time. That is the way we will get them back.
David2012 said:
This^^^.
If Russell is truly for open-carry he just made a boneheaded mistake. It's much better to get our rights back one small step at a time instead of never getting them back because of trying to make a giant leap. I hope I am wrong but I'm starting to think we just lost a great opportunity to restore some of our 2A Rights.
