Yes, someone could make file an amendment to be heard on the floor that would strike the new language and restore the original language. If the amendment was voted on and passed, then the old language would become the newest language again.
Yes, someone could make file an amendment to be heard on the floor that would strike the new language and restore the original language. If the amendment was voted on and passed, then the old language would become the newest language again.
Hrdware, you wrote a very good post on the H&H forum..... [re-posted below]
HB2522 is now SB1092
Attended the committee meeting this morning along with leadership from OK2A. HB2522 did pass the committee but there was a committee substitute that needs a bit more work. The current version of HB2522 is identical to SB1092. The title has been stricken and Senator Treat and Senator Russell are working on amendments to bring the good stuff from HB2522 into SB1092 before it gets to the Senate Floor.
Here is the play by play, HB2522 came into the committee and there were 2 amendments.
The first Amendment was by Senator Johnson, this amendment would increase the penalty for carrying a firearm while under the influence if you have a CCL. This amendment would have suspended your CCL for 10 years and you would have to pay a $5000 administrative fine. This amendment failed.
The second amendment was a committee substitute which did pass. This substitute removed the entire text of HB2522 and replaced it with SB1092. The title was then stricken so Senators Treat and Russell could work on amendments. These amendments would include adding ammunition to the parking lot exemption, allowing OC on your own property without a permit, sending the CC app to the recipient instead of the sheriffs office, and the ability of a LEO to ask to see your certificate.
SB1092 would require someone to get a safety permit from a NRA or Cleet instructor and carry with them. This permit would essentially state that you knew the laws and how to safely handle a firearm. Ideally this would allow more people to open carry as it would relieve a lot of the cost involved.
The theory now is that at some point the 2 bills will go to conference committee and let them sort out the details for the best option for Oklahoma, either tied to the CCL or not, then get voted on by both houses and off to the gov for passage.
HB2522 is now SB1092
Attended the committee meeting this morning along with leadership from OK2A. HB2522 did pass the committee but there was a committee substitute that needs a bit more work. The current version of HB2522 is identical to SB1092. The title has been stricken and Senator Treat and Senator Russell are working on amendments to bring the good stuff from HB2522 into SB1092 before it gets to the Senate Floor.
Here is the play by play, HB2522 came into the committee and there were 2 amendments.
The first Amendment was by Senator Johnson, this amendment would increase the penalty for carrying a firearm while under the influence if you have a CCL. This amendment would have suspended your CCL for 10 years and you would have to pay a $5000 administrative fine. This amendment failed.
The second amendment was a committee substitute which did pass. This substitute removed the entire text of HB2522 and replaced it with SB1092. The title was then stricken so Senators Treat and Russell could work on amendments. These amendments would include adding ammunition to the parking lot exemption, allowing OC on your own property without a permit, sending the CC app to the recipient instead of the sheriffs office, and the ability of a LEO to ask to see your certificate.
SB1092 would require someone to get a safety permit from a NRA or Cleet instructor and carry with them. This permit would essentially state that you knew the laws and how to safely handle a firearm. Ideally this would allow more people to open carry as it would relieve a lot of the cost involved.
The theory now is that at some point the 2 bills will go to conference committee and let them sort out the details for the best option for Oklahoma, either tied to the CCL or not, then get voted on by both houses and off to the gov for passage.
Yes. We would essentially have 2 items, a safety training certificate for open carry, and the CCL for concealed carry.
Other than stupidity, what characteristics would I have to exhibit to be considered for elected state office?
We need to get on the phone to Sen Russel and see if he can suggest that current CCL holders be granfathered in on the training.
Or amend to indicate valid cc license OR training certificate.
It seems it is now counter to our wants and actually indicates that a cc license is not enough to openly carry. That was the point of the original bill and seems to be worse now.
It seems it is now counter to our wants and actually indicates that a cc license is not enough to openly carry. That was the point of the original bill and seems to be worse now.
Redundancy! The government is good at that. I don't need an additional certificate to say the same thing my certificate says already.
I agree . IF i got one saying they trust me to behave with one concealed why would I need anything different. Either way I have a gun on me. Whats the point unless they are looking at either killing the bill or wanting to make more money off us.
