HB2522: Open Carry

[dieseltech09]

First, the training certificate is not a license, although you could view it as such. Second, the government would make no money on the training certificate, NRA/Cleet instructors would, or gun shops that offered the class through an NRA/Cleet instructor.

The reason for doing what he did is two fold: 1) Having separate laws for OC and CC make it easier. States that have the two tied together have more problems than those that have separate permits (According to Russell) 2) Having a training certificate that costs far less than the CCL would allow more people to take advantage of the ability to open carry. The approximate $200 fee can be a lot of money to some people, especially retired persons who are on a very limited income.

I wouldn't expect them to say the those with a CCL are already covered as the training in the SDA class in regards to safety is about zero. The class covers the law a bit, and all you have to do is squeeze the trigger with the muzzle in a fairly safe direction. Nothing about safety is required.

This is all unnecessary bull crap.

 

[piston10]

This is all unnecessary bull crap.

Agreed!!! This is political BS as usual. If you already have a CC I see no reason needed to take another class and spend more money for what can already be done, carry a gun. If a person does not have a permit already, then yes, they need a background check and and a safety/know the law class.

 

[kinggabby]

Agreed!!! This is political BS as usual. If you already have a CC I see no reason needed to take another class and spend more money for what can already be done, carry a gun. If a person does not have a permit already, then yes, they need a background check and and a safety/know the law class.

100 % my friend

 

[hrdware]

Agreed!!! This is political BS as usual. If you already have a CC I see no reason needed to take another class and spend more money for what can already be done, carry a gun. If a person does not have a permit already, then yes, they need a background check and and a safety/know the law class.

You would only need a different training if you wanted to open carry, not for concealed carry. The idea is to decouple the two so the law can be clearer. What you are saying is you prefer the prior bill and only those who can afford the CCL could open carry. Part of Russells reasoning was to make it available to more people by making it cheaper.

I do not agree that someone needs a background check to exercise their right.

 

[huskres]

Gee this is ridiculous. What training would be suffice?

 

[piston10]

You would only need a different training if you wanted to open carry, not for concealed carry. The idea is to decouple the two so the law can be clearer. What you are saying is you prefer the prior bill and only those who can afford the CCL could open carry. Part of Russells reasoning was to make it available to more people by making it cheaper.

I do not agree that someone needs a background check to exercise their right.

Please explain the logic in needing different training to open carry. That's the part I don't understand. If I carry with my shirt tucked in or shirt tail out to conceal it, why does a person that already have a CC permit need something else? Again, if the person has no CC permit to start with then I agree some training is needed.

 

[bettingpython]

I wonder if my NRA RSO certification is going to be sufficient for the safety certification portion.

 

[dieseltech09]

You would only need a different training if you wanted to open carry, not for concealed carry. The idea is to decouple the two so the law can be clearer. What you are saying is you prefer the prior bill and only those who can afford the CCL could open carry. Part of Russells reasoning was to make it available to more people by making it cheaper.

I do not agree that someone needs a background check to exercise their right.

How does having 2 separate laws make anything clearer? Over half the people with CCL's cant even tell you if something is legal under the SDA. This is is only going to lead to more confusion. The bill was fine the way it was. One law with 2 methods of carry, open or concealed. It doesn't get any simpler than that. I dont need to go sit through another BS class and pay any more money to open carry.

 

[David2012]

Short news story from the Channel 7 News / Lawton, Ok web site....

Okla. Senate panel amends, passes open carry bill

http://www.kswo.com/global/story.asp?s=17288456

 

[Dale00]

It sounds like a sop being thrown to the gun fearers. "Don't worry they will be trained."