School bullying and threats - what would you do?

[Pokinfun]

Well, like I said, I already was asked to leave by the previous principal last spring. This wasn't for yelling at her (as she accused me of doing), but of later calmly pointing out that she was yelling at me.

I guess you can yell (or raise your voice), but you can't point out their hypocrisy when they do the same? So anyways, I have decided to stay away from that place and not interact with these administrators at all. I've told my wife I think we need to pull him out of this school because I don't think they are as concerned with stopping bullying as they are with hurting the bully's feelings or tarnishing the school's image by admitting there is a problem, but she would ultimately be the one who would have to deal with getting him into another school or home-schooling him, so for now, we are kind of at a holding point and seeing if anything else happens. And she thinks because of his personality he would not do well with home-schooling, he needs the daily interaction with other kids.

I think this needs to be said: As a teacher, one of the first things we learn is when we interact with an irate parent, they are not yelling at you. Most of the time the parent is yelling at their teacher, from their youth. Parents who show up and make demands, complainants, and claim the world is against their child is a helicopter parent or has issues from their own childhood. They did not have a good a experience in school and they are going to get even for their treatment. These types of parents do not care about their child's situation, they only use their child as an excuse to make themselves feel better.

I am not saying this is the case in this situation, but it could be a contributing factor. The need to pay for a private school and then go in and yell at the staff, without making a change of schools tells me something about what has actually occurred in this situation. Combined with a history of making demands in the same school, which the child is in by choice reinforces the idea that it may not be about the child at all. After all, why not just move your child to another school, because he is already getting what he wants. He is paying to be able to get even for some unresolved issues form his own childhood. His child's education is an opportunity to feel like a man.

 

[BrandonM]

Do you know this guy? These sound like asinine comments from someone without any real world experience, only intellectual experience from a "professor." How many kids do you have tlbnlawton?

 

[Poke78]

IBTL -- this will be interesting!

 

[NightShade]

I have stayed out of this till now and will not likely post again. However I have met TR and he is as I can tell a stable well rounded person. I have a MAJOR problem with "Stereotyping" which is what I have seen try and be placed on the situation by tlbn. Every decent parent cares about their child and not only expects their child to follow the rules but also expect the staff and other children to do the same. If staff do not follow the rules set out it's a parent's right to bring that to their attention and if staff do not follow the rules how can children be expected to do so? On the same line if TR lets his son whooop up on the bully I can bet the staff would crack down immediately which creates a double standard but as that has not happened yet I could be wrong but I highly doubt it.

I feel TR has done great in keeping himself and his son in check, which is something ALL of us should do. This is especially true if we have a permit to carry since we are held to a higher standard if we don't and failing will just give more ammunition for the Anti's.

As far as a little insight of my situation in school well I am a GEEK and always have been. I am also a fat guy and was always overweight. I ALWAYS dealt with kids and their BS and ALWAYS did my best to follow the rules no matter what. If I screwed up I accepted my punishment. I had the living crap beat out of me for ABSOLUTELY no reason once and ended up taking a ride to the hospital for it as they questioned if I had internal injuries. The kid got a couple days suspension for it and there was NO denying it happened but he should have honestly been expelled. I have been in two fights where I fought back when I got the crap beat out of me I was blind sided and on the ground getting stomped before I had the chance. My second fight I was also blind sided but didn't go down and made sure the other kid remember it, I was twice his weight and I put him on the ground. I ended up in detention but was pretty well left alone after that. My third fight was my fault and I socked a kid in the face I went straight to the principal's office without being told and was waiting for my punishment before the teacher could even say anything. I knew I had screwed up and took my punishment for it. I also made a point to apologize for what I had done as in a way I had become the bully, it was wrong and I knew it. I had let my anger take over and vowed never to do it again even though it brought me a lot of respect from my peers and NO one who knew me even tried to touch me after that point.

My hat is off to TR and his son for handling things so well thus far. All I can say is that I hope things get straightened out for the better and that if it comes to his son needing to defend himself that the other boy doesn't end up in the hospital over it.

 

[tRidiot]

TLBN? I dunno, I don't get to see what he has posted, so it doesn't bother me. Although I can't remember why I put him on /i, it sounds like it was a good decision. lol

 

[NightShade]

TLBN? I dunno, I don't get to see what he has posted, so it doesn't bother me. Although I can't remember why I put him on /i, it sounds like it was a good decision. lol

Yeah, probably.

 

[Pokinfun]

Do you know this guy? These sound like asinine comments from someone without any real world experience, only intellectual experience from a "professor." How many kids do you have tlbnlawton?

I don't know I was in the Army for 20 years and have taught middle and high school. I also have two of my own kids and a grandson. Your attempt at insulting me, and nightshade saying something about a higher standard because of concealed carry shows how little either of you have a real argument, other than you have nothing to say.
As far as TR goes, his comment shows how he does not want to hear anything other than a reinforcement of his own cheerleading section. He posted and wanted to know what other people think, "School bullying and threats - what would you do?" Then TR brags about how he does not want to hear what other people think and Mods delete any comments where to poster does not say TR is some sort of god as a parent.
I never said TR was a bad parent, I just said he should consider his own motivations. If TR believes that he did the right thing, then great, if he thinks about his actions, then he becomes a better parent.

 

[BrandonM]

Your attempt at insulting me, and nightshade saying something about a higher standard because of concealed carry shows how little either of you have a real argument, other than you have nothing to say.

You seem upset that I questioned your post in an insulting way even though you spent a long post underhandedly calling TR a helicopter parent with issues from his childhood, that TR is only trying to get even for the way he was treated as a child and doesn't really care about his child's situation, he is using his child as an excuse to make himself feel better, and lastly, a direct quote from you.

he is already getting what he wants. He is paying to be able to get even for some unresolved issues form his own childhood. His child's education is an opportunity to feel like a man.

Your posts reek of a double standard. I wouldn't recommend throwing any additional stones from inside your glass house tlbnlawton.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

TLBN? I dunno, I don't get to see what he has posted, so it doesn't bother me. Although I can't remember why I put him on /i, it sounds like it was a good decision. lol

I can tell you this. He hates me because I love midget porn. Does that sound like a good reason to hate someone?

 

[Pokinfun]

You seem upset that I questioned your post in an insulting way even though you spent a long post underhandedly calling TR a helicopter parent with issues from his childhood, that TR is only trying to get even for the way he was treated as a child and doesn't really care about his child's situation, he is using his child as an excuse to make himself feel better, and lastly, a direct quote from you.



Your posts reek of a double standard. I wouldn't recommend throwing any additional stones from inside your glass house tlbnlawton.

or what?