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Exactly!! History shows us you can take down a giant at a reasonable distance with one small stone and a sling. It's totally unlikely that you will encounter 30 four-cubit tall giants at the same time!
And this was an ancient sling, not a modern, military-style assault sling. No reason to need one of those!
Also, despite this historical anecdote being about a youth using a rock to protect himself, we need to press our politicians to pass legislation to prevent youths from obtaining slings.

Ha! That is absolutely hilarious...
 

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Uh, yeah, you risk 10 years in prison without the proper NGBA (National Geo-Balistic Act) tax stamp. Same applies for any device that propels multiple rocks at the same time and what is know as a Free Audible Rock Thrower or FART, also known as the Silent But Deadly.

There were farmers who owned cannons back during/after the revolutionary war..."to keep and bear arms" means the technology of the day. Even though i think the 2nd amendment means anything (except nukes), I am a pragmatist and understand that F16's and tanks might be a bit much in private hands...full-auto and grenades, etc I think you CAN get with tax stamps and the proper vetting process as a collector or Class-3 dealer?

But I think there should be county citizen armories (that do contain most military weaponry) independent of the gov't that have properly trained and vetted "citizen captains" sworn to uphold the Constitution, that have the ability to organize in the event of a national emergency where the military was either under command of a tyrant, or defeated by a foreign power. The "militia" the Constitution refers to is certainly not a gov't militia right???

Basically you'd have a volunteer local militia that was similar to volunteer firefighters...regional, trained and vetted...and the weapons secured properly. Then, the current laws could stay in effect with no changes so that most semi-auto small arms (including AR's. etc) are permitted to private citizens and autos and other more advanced weapons are only permitted to those properly vetted beyond just a 4473 and background check.

The problem is that MANY people who own guns are not responsible enough to exercise this right and ruin it for all of us...so I can understand in a country of 315 million people that the "well-regulated" part must come into play and people can't own automatics, RPG's, etc on a simple 4473 because of how easy this stuff could fall into the wrong hands...BUT, 85% of all MODERN weapons technology is banned or restricted to the avg Joe...So I think the last 15% (basic semi-auto small arms) need not be banned...and if you have these citizen armories, in fact our rights are broadened in the sense that although we could not have machine guns and claymores and tanks at home, we would still have a fighting chance in the even of a national emergency but ONLY if the military could not take care of us.

My goal is to have 1000 of each caliber...but to be honest, I have a ways to go to get there...

You are spread out too much...if I still had guns, I'd only stock NATO calibers and only a few varieties.

Just sold all of my guns and ammo.

No stash left

Yes, me too...with the new laws inevitably coming down, pellet guns and black powder are all I need anyway.
 
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Private citizen militia has been outlawed in most states, even in good ole Okieland. The law states that the only militia allowed to assemble in Oklahoma is the state militia, which is the Oklahoma National Guard. Sorry fellas, they banned it because of a bunch of racist rednecks, and that is the true cause.
 

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There were farmers who owned cannons back during/after the revolutionary war..."to keep and bear arms" means the technology of the day. Even though i think the 2nd amendment means anything (except nukes), I am a pragmatist and understand that F16's and tanks might be a bit much in private hands...full-auto and grenades, etc I think you CAN get with tax stamps and the proper vetting process as a collector or Class-3 dealer?

But I think there should be county citizen armories (that do contain most military weaponry) independent of the gov't that have properly trained and vetted "citizen captains" sworn to uphold the Constitution, that have the ability to organize in the event of a national emergency where the military was either under command of a tyrant, or defeated by a foreign power. The "militia" the Constitution refers to is certainly not a gov't militia right???

Basically you'd have a volunteer local militia that was similar to volunteer firefighters...regional, trained and vetted...and the weapons secured properly. Then, the current laws could stay in effect with no changes so that most semi-auto small arms (including AR's. etc) are permitted to private citizens and autos and other more advanced weapons are only permitted to those properly vetted beyond just a 4473 and background check.

The problem is that MANY people who own guns are not responsible enough to exercise this right and ruin it for all of us...so I can understand in a country of 315 million people that the "well-regulated" part must come into play and people can't own automatics, RPG's, etc on a simple 4473 because of how easy this stuff could fall into the wrong hands...BUT, 85% of all MODERN weapons technology is banned or restricted to the avg Joe...So I think the last 15% (basic semi-auto small arms) need not be banned...and if you have these citizen armories, in fact our rights are broadened in the sense that although we could not have machine guns and claymores and tanks at home, we would still have a fighting chance in the even of a national emergency but ONLY if the military could not take care of us.

Really ? How you gonna protect yourself from the ones that do it Illegally?

You are spread out too much...if I still had guns, I'd only stock NATO calibers and only a few varieties.

OK

Yes, me too made big money and with the new laws inevitably coming down, pellet guns and black powder are all I need anyway.

Why does everyone Give up, thinking theres gonna be a ban. Common sence says :Now is the time to address mental health, and get rid of the gun free "shooting gallerys" so people can protect themselves.
Its Not about guns , Its about Control Dammit!
 

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Private citizen militia has been outlawed in most states, even in good ole Okieland. The law states that the only militia allowed to assemble in Oklahoma is the state militia, which is the Oklahoma National Guard. Sorry fellas, they banned it because of a bunch of racist rednecks, and that is the true cause.

Well that is where the vetting process should come in :)...I am not talking about fat guys in camo rolling around in the woods...I mean doctors, accountants, plumbers, mechanics, IT specialists, etc...that have a clean record and are volunteers for training and responsibility and perhaps even a yearly review by the state authorities...but the point is, if the SHTF, the Constitution demands the citizens have their own armory and don't have to rely on the gubbermint. BUT, AT LEAST, if we can't have that, the should keep all semi-auto small arms legal...like I said before, if 85% of all modern weapons technology is banned then why would they control freaks go after the last 15% (semi-auto small arms) unless the goal was to disarm a free people completely??? I don't understand banning 85% of all dangerous modern weaponry for law-abiding citizens and then deciding to take away the rest which are the weakest of the lot? (small arms)

Why does everyone Give up, thinking theres gonna be a ban. Common sence says :Now is the time to address mental health, and get rid of the gun free "shooting gallerys" so people can protect themselves.
Its Not about guns , Its about Control Dammit!

I know it is about control...you must have misread me? I was being a pragmatist to say that I understand letting people buy RPG's at Wal-mart or not letting Bill Gates have his own air force is not gonna work in this day & age...but my stance was very much pro-gun...I think we have enough laws as it is and was actually calling for more freedom with the idea of a well-regulated citizen militia where the people (via citizen captains) could have access to real armories in the event it was ever genuinely necessary.
 
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Well that is where the vetting process should come in :)...I am not talking about fat guys in camo rolling around in the woods...I mean doctors, accountants, plumbers, mechanics, IT specialists, etc...)
those are typically the people you see rolling around the woods. Sorry, but the list you gave are not always going to be fit and trim worriors.
I know a whole lot of ditch diggers, and burger flippers that could be good candidates.

The armories where said weapons were kept would be the first to be destroyed by the rogue gubberment.
 

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Well that is where the vetting process should come in :)...I am not talking about fat guys in camo rolling around in the woods...I mean doctors, accountants, plumbers, mechanics, IT specialists, etc...that have a clean record and are volunteers for training and responsibility and perhaps even a yearly review by the state authorities...but the point is, if the SHTF, the Constitution demands the citizens have their own armory and don't have to rely on the gubbermint. BUT, AT LEAST, if we can't have that, the should keep all semi-auto small arms legal...like I said before, if 85% of all modern weapons technology is banned then why would they control freaks go after the last 15% (semi-auto small arms) unless the goal was to disarm a free people completely??? I don't understand banning 85% of all dangerous modern weaponry for law-abiding citizens and then deciding to take away the rest which are the weakest of the lot? (small arms)



I know it is about control...you must have misread me? I was being a pragmatist to say that I understand letting people buy RPG's at Wal-mart or not letting Bill Gates have his own air force is not gonna work in this day & age...but my stance was very much pro-gun...I think we have enough laws as it is and was actually calling for more freedom with the idea of a well-regulated citizen militia where the people (via citizen captains) could have access to real armories in the event it was ever genuinely necessary.

I am a little lost here, what types of weapons are you talking about being banned in this 85%?
 

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