Tax break for the rich, smart move. Tax break for poor to eat, moochers?

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Stephen Cue

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You guys have seen the Stewart/O'Reilly debate, right?

Here's one exerpt I wanted a discussion over:

Stewart:

“If you take advantage of a tax break, you’re a smart businessman. If you take advantage of something you need to not be hungry, you’re a moocher."
 
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Simple math. A tax break is the government saying they're not going to take quite as much from you. An "entitlement" is something the government takes from others to give to you for free.

I do not consider Social Security and entitlement. You paid for that at a rate of 7.5%. Same for military pensions. You paid for that with your blood, sweat & tears.
 

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Stewart and O'Reilly are so far detached from reality it's absurd to think they know what it's like to stand in a line at crest or walmart and observe how people take advantage of the system.

Ive been to Wal-Mart on the 1st of the month and seen this. I agree that 'Access' cards are being used on things that are not healthy, but why is that?

Do they buy the junk food because they taste awesome or because they get more bang for their buck than healthier groceries that takes skills to cook?

The same corporations that are making profits from selling the junk food bought with access cards, are they taking advantage of tax loopholes that in essence cost the Federal government more than the aggregate of all the money on those Access cards?

The anecdotal experiences that you and I have seen show that these people obvious are able or choose not to cook healthily. How much money do the junk food corporations spend in advertising and influence to get Access cards users to buy their products?


My first hand experience is that conservatives are more likely to open their wallets for someone in need than liberals are.

Jeff I believe you. You are around a greater % of conservative people in your life than liberal right? So that statement makes sense.
 

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Simple math. A tax break is the government saying they're not going to take quite as much from you. An "entitlement" is something the government takes from others to give to you for free.

I do not consider Social Security and entitlement. You paid for that at a rate of 7.5%. Same for military pensions. You paid for that with your blood, sweat & tears.

Not all people that take entitlements pay no tax. Also what about this scenario: The US government spends billions on overspending in many other facets of the budget, why is it ok for a company such as Halliburton to gouge the government when selling their services and then use many loopholes to get out of paying taxes that in reality pay for their services, but its not ok for the US government to buy food for struggling families?

US tax money spent on redundant or overpriced corporate services....GOOD?

US tax money spent on food for needy families......NO GOOD?
 

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