I wish them po 
people would have decency to just go away.
people would have decency to just go away.
Tax break for the rich, smart move. Tax break for poor to eat, moochers?
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Nothing you stated invalidates what I stated.
FWIW, I believe that corporate entitlements are an abomination that invalidates the free enterprise system. They should be straight up eliminated, period. I think corporate tax rates should be a flat 10%, based on whatever business you do in the US. No loopholes, no offshoring mailboxes, etc.
I've never drawn one.
I guess that depends on if your predispostition. I understood what Obama meant by his YDBT statement. My firearms instruction business could never have started without the federal governent. Fact!
Yes, I agree. That makes my point that they get more benefit. I never stated they didnt pay extra for the extra benefit,
I agree (although 10% might be a bit low).
The fact is that the tax code is a convoluted mess and has been raped over and over again for political gain and means to buy votes. Oh sure, they'll tell you it's to stimulate behavior or encourage certain social or economic things.
So... since I said all of that, can I bash the moochers now? I find it very disturbing that there are so many people on the government dole these days... are they ALL that helpless?
Jerry, my statement of 'Not all recipients of entitlements pay no tax was in response to this. Many families that recieve 'entitlements' pay taxes so in essence not all entitlements are free.
Agreed.
I'm guessing that you'd have found a way to start your business without the Goverment's help if it didn't exist. If you're referring to an SBA loan, then I'd also argue that the Government didn't really have much to do with it anyway... it's still a loan from a bank, just backed up by the SBA. If your business plan wasn't solid to begin with, you'd have still been refused. Chances are that if you'd have just gone in without the SBA backing, you might have been successful too. The bottom line there is that millions and millions of Americans every single day find a way to start businesses and make it without Government help. I'm confident that you can too.
EDIT: OH and I wouldn't really consider an SBA loan to be an entitlement anyway.
You don't benefit from the roads that bring all kinds of goods and services to your doorstep? That bring your customers to you? That allow you to travel freely? In fact, you benefit from Wal-Mart being able to thrive as well... It's not as cut and dry as you may wish it to be and quantifying who gets MORE benefit isn't even the point is it?
This thread kind of proves my point.
Being a Liberal or conservative has little do with charity or government programs.
If its not the government responsibility, then to whom should we direct our tax dollars. Should the Church? Maybe some huge Company would step up and get a contract with the government.
Maybe care for the poor/elderly/disabled should just be a States issue. Ya think OKs state tax would increase?
Truth is when you go to a grocery store on the 1st you have no real idea of anyones situation. So they use an access card. My wife or daughter uses one every month for a 96y/o grandmother that cant make a grocery list or care for herself.
What is being suggested is that if you use an access/food stamp, government assistance program, you can only buy from a specific list or certain products. Flesh it out and we should have a government run super store that only welfare types can use. That way we can regulate how they eat and spend our tax dollars.
Bash all you want, LOL.
No, not all people on the 'dole' are helpless. Are all government loans, grants, tax breaks to rich people legit?
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