droberts how much did shipping run you? did you have it shipped as a lot?
I run the 2500K in my gaming rig because it's an over clocking beast, nothing AMD has is capable of out performing the intel chips in the bench marks for high end builds.
I'm running a mild over clock at 4.2Ghz on my 2500K plus it's not that expensive a chip, I think it was like $260 back in February when I built my rig. My graphics cards were more per card than my processor.
Cold boot to fully launched game client, ventrillo and I run SQL server 2008 developer on my rig is 22 seconds.
i5 2500K today's price $219
i7 2600k today's price $299
go to anandtech and compare benchmarks for either of those processors against AMD processors and see the difference for yourself.
I would stick with Sandy Bridge for now the Ivy Bridge move was a half tick improvement on a 2 year release cycle rather than a 4 year development cycle, the nice thing was what it did for the pricing on sandy bridge processors.
shipping is usually free if over a certain amount @ newegg.com
True, but by the time an SSD fails, it'll probably be 5+ yrs old and your spinning HDDs would have probably already died.
If you filled your SSD to capacity and reformatted it every day, it'd still last 10 years. Computer technology evolves so quickly that you'll never get close to the limited amount of write cycles before you naturally want to replace it with something twice as fast, with twice as much memory, for half the price.
Full disclosure, I'm running RAID 0 SSDs for my OS drive and RAID 1 HDDs for my storage drive, but only because it's much cheaper per GB to run HDDs than SSDs, not because of fears of my SSDs failing.
im not debating top end benchmarks, im saying its overpriced. i build in accordance to cost vs real world needs of the customer. you match your weapon to your prey, you don't go deer hunting with a rocket launcher, you dont hunt bear with a sling shot. in todays diverse pc component market the old rule of more money = better performance has been replaced by more marketing = higher price != performance scaling. throwing an obscene amount of money at a system and hoping that the end result will be better than the other guys box is not the way to go, make your money count.
when i build pc's for people i min-max the cost/performance ratio based on the available hardware on the day of purchase.
regardless of what your performance goal is, a paying customer will always, always, always pay more per unit of performance for an intel based machine than an amd based machine. with intel the higher you get in performance the higher the rate of price/performance. amd, not so much. top end benchmarks may favor intel in a few areas, but when price vs performance is the war, amd is and always has been the clear & decisive victor. in the case of the 2500$ pc, you paid about 1500$ too much, unless you're running 8 way SLI and went with an SSD stripe or something. for 2500$ i could build a quad gpu amd system with 5 monitor 360 degree wrap around, though you'd need to make sure you had ATI video cards to get it to work with all games new & old... nvidia dropped horizontal spanning support from their gforce line a while back. now you can only get it with their quadro cards. ati still includes it on all radeon chipsets.
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i dont know about other solid state vendors, but intel SSD drives have claimed operation of 136 years. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167068
i've never had an ssd fail, and dont know anyone that has. when it comes to SSD consideration, definitely buy intel.
i've never had an ssd fail, and dont know anyone that has. when it comes to SSD consideration, definitely buy intel.
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I bought a reasonably powerful computer for what I considered to be a decent price at PC Club. That was closing in on 10 years ago, and it's just now getting to the point that I can't live with its performance anymore. PC Club is gone and I haven't found any vendors of built machines I'd go with, so I'm going to have one built. So here's what I want:
Machine and OS for under a grand. Windows 7 obviously.
I don't need a monitor, keyboard, mouse, UPS or printer, All my peripherals are in great shape.
I'll be getting my MS Office suite through an inexpensive .gov program.
I don't game.
I want it to start fast, open programs fast, perform tasks fast and shut down fast when I'm done. I like to get what I'm doing done and GTFO.
I want at least dual drives with automatic backup and defrag. OS on a separate drive would be sweet. Same goes for a lot of RAM. Did I mention I want fast?
I want superb audio and video processing. I want to stream HD video without freezing, buffering and out of sync audio/video.
It needs good cooling and quiet operation.
I'd like to have a multimedia card reader and lots of USB ports, both front and back.
At some point, I'll want to add photo and video editing software. I'm getting into that area more, so I also need advice on what to be looking at there.
I want this one to last as close to 10 years as possible as well.
Based on those criteria, what would you gurus suggest?
Machine and OS for under a grand. Windows 7 obviously.
I don't need a monitor, keyboard, mouse, UPS or printer, All my peripherals are in great shape.
I'll be getting my MS Office suite through an inexpensive .gov program.
I don't game.
I want it to start fast, open programs fast, perform tasks fast and shut down fast when I'm done. I like to get what I'm doing done and GTFO.
I want at least dual drives with automatic backup and defrag. OS on a separate drive would be sweet. Same goes for a lot of RAM. Did I mention I want fast?
I want superb audio and video processing. I want to stream HD video without freezing, buffering and out of sync audio/video.
It needs good cooling and quiet operation.
I'd like to have a multimedia card reader and lots of USB ports, both front and back.
At some point, I'll want to add photo and video editing software. I'm getting into that area more, so I also need advice on what to be looking at there.
I want this one to last as close to 10 years as possible as well.
Based on those criteria, what would you gurus suggest?
Performance wise, the SB-based Pentium G630 craps all over the Athlon II X2 260, and only costs $5 more.
How is the platform cost on the AMD vs Intel?
Minimum would would be a fx 8150 bulldozer or intel i5 2500(not 25xx but a 2500 or 2500K) CPU That's 200 bones.(don't over clock the sandy bridge and the stock cooler is fine, I even have a stock one you can have if you buy an oem chip with no cooler)
Windows 7 pro OEM is a 100
SSD for a boot drive. Prices vary I am getting away with a 120gb OCZ agility 3 but I load no applications on my boot drive other than my game I play everything else all go on a SATA 3.0 6gb/ps disk. Looking to change that soon when SSD prices come down a little more
2 1TB storage drives raid 0 mirroring I prefer WD caviar blacks that's 200
16 gig of quality low latency pc1600 ram That's a 100 for 16 gigs
MOBO of your choice 100 to 199 depends on what cards and ports you will want.
Case and at least a 400 watt power supply.
add another 150 or so for a decent mid range video card.
With the SSD and enough ram with either of those processor choices you'll be very happy.
We might could get you a screamer for right around 1K
You don't need a graphics card but I like to offload video processing.
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