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What's the average time most physicians spend with a patient these days? Last I heard it was around 7.5 minutes. A pill seems to be the quick fix for both doctors and patients in some cases.

Drug shortages seem to be a problem, too. Either the cheap drugs aren't being made because big pharma can't make enough money selling them or the government is restricting the amounts of certain chemicals used to make the drugs. We can't win.
Maybe you should stop and look at WHY doctors only spend 7.5 minutes per patient. There are a ton of factors in that. if you want to complain about it, you need to understand it and place the blame everywhere it is deserved.

And big pharma wants to make money because they are private companies with investors who expect a return on their investment. If you want to legislate all drugs free or cheap to everyone, then you'd better be prepared for there to be almost NO new drugs, because no one's going to spend billions developing new ones with no expectation of profit at the end of the line.
 

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Maybe you should stop and look at WHY doctors only spend 7.5 minutes per patient. There are a ton of factors in that. if you want to complain about it, you need to understand it and place the blame everywhere it is deserved.

And big pharma wants to make money because they are private companies with investors who expect a return on their investment. If you want to legislate all drugs free or cheap to everyone, then you'd better be prepared for there to be almost NO new drugs, because no one's going to spend billions developing new ones with no expectation of profit at the end of the line.

There a bigger picture? No way...
 

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Maybe you should stop and look at WHY doctors only spend 7.5 minutes per patient. There are a ton of factors in that. if you want to complain about it, you need to understand it and place the blame everywhere it is deserved.

And big pharma wants to make money because they are private companies with investors who expect a return on their investment. If you want to legislate all drugs free or cheap to everyone, then you'd better be prepared for there to be almost NO new drugs, because no one's going to spend billions developing new ones with no expectation of profit at the end of the line.

Yep. Big Pharma loves its profits. Saw it in fen-phen, Avandia, ACTOS and a dozen others.
 

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I didn't realize that *I* was the one being held accountable for it...

Your statement is akin to saying "All food should be cheap and available to all people in the world."

Sure, it's a noble goal... but you can ***** about it and complain about what you WANT or THINK should be the case, but it's no different than saying we should give every person a pot of gold or a new car or a big house in the Hollywood hills... without some kind of plan, or at the least an idea on how to accomplish that, it's nothing but whining. In my opinion, your statement was intentionally inflammatory to try to stir up feelings against someone or something (physicians? Big Pharma? corporate America? Capitalism?), but with nothing to bring to the table, you're simply adding to the problem. Which is why I gave you an option to express your ideas/thoughts. If you don't have any, or refuse to share them, then you're still free to express your feelings... and I'm free to say you're just a whiner.

Yep. Big Pharma loves its profits. Saw it in fen-phen, Avandia, ACTOS and a dozen others.
What for-profit corporate entity doesn't?

hell, my parents own a small business and they buy product, mark it up and sell it to people... for a... for a... <gasp> PROFIT! OMG! We should burn them at the stake!!!
 
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I agreed with you up until the tax part there Kmarxm, if that is your real name. Socialist LIEberal alert! Take yer taxes back to england you tea-drinkin' nanny-state PINKO pantywaist! Commie commie commie spreading propaganda!

WHOA WHOA WHOA!! I'm no Marxist/socialist/commie, I HATE taxes and inflated elephant governments as nuch as the rest here, BUT I know that in my life time I will probly not see the dismantle of the tax system... I would love to see the IRS go away and a flat tax be put on all goods, that way Scar E. Face the coke dealer is paying taxes just like me but I HIGHLY doubt I will see it happen. If I was to describe my political views I'd say I'm a FarRightLibertarian or a LibritarianistcRepublican. Basically I want the government out of my life, we are all ready way to close to socialist for me.
 

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WHOA WHOA WHOA!! I'm no Marxist/socialist/commie, I HATE taxes and inflated elephant governments as nuch as the rest here, BUT I know that in my life time I will probly not see the dismantle of the tax system... I would love to see the IRS go away and a flat tax be put on all goods, that way Scar E. Face the coke dealer is paying taxes just like me but I HIGHLY doubt I will see it happen. If I was to describe my political views I'd say I'm a FarRightLibertarian or a LibritarianistcRepublican. Basically I want the government out of my life, we are all ready way to close to socialist for me.

Don't worry, when JB gets you into his camp he will fix that...
 
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hell, my parents own a small business and they buy product, mark it up and sell it to people... for a... for a... <gasp> PROFIT! OMG! We should burn them at the stake!!!

Oh no we can't own a Buisiness and make a profit off someone else, that's wrong!! ARE YOU KIDDING?!?! And you guys called ME a Marxist/Commie....#facepalm

By the way my name is Marc. Well, it's Kevin Marcus Miller, Kmarcm, I go by Marc though.
 
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