Ron Paul!

[Captain Fuzzybritches]

easy... cut off all the tax shelters and government handouts for MEGA corporations and super rich. then institute a value added tax (VAT) on all goods consumed. this would insure the over 50% of folks who pay zero tax pay their share.

leave alone the rich and middle class who is driving all the jobs and paying all the bills already.

if above was instigated our budget will be balanced quickly. but the chance of that happening is close to zero. the fortune 500 crowd knows how to control ultra right wing politicians by $$$$ ... just like radical left wants to preserve their votes from the 50% that pays no taxes by keeping all the handouts intact.

above is obviously oversimplified, but you get the gist....

Ron Paul is still the best pick out of what is the sorriest lineup on both sides in recent memory. too bad he's got about as much charisma as a brown paper bag.

so basically what you're saying here is that you don't understand economics

 

[been]

easy... cut off all the tax shelters and government handouts for MEGA corporations and super rich. then institute a value added tax (VAT) on all goods consumed. this would insure the over 50% of folks who pay zero tax pay their share.

leave alone the rich and middle class who is driving all the jobs and paying all the bills already.

if above was instigated our budget will be balanced quickly. but the chance of that happening is close to zero. the fortune 500 crowd knows how to control ultra right wing politicians by $$$$ ... just like radical left wants to preserve their votes from the 50% that pays no taxes by keeping all the handouts intact.

above is obviously oversimplified, but you get the gist....

Ron Paul is still the best pick out of what is the sorriest lineup on both sides in recent memory. too bad he's got about as much charisma as a brown paper bag.[/QUOTE]

i would rather have paper than plastic!

 

[Dave70968]

quite obvious it's you that doesn't get it.
who cares about a scenario that doesn't exist and will never exist!

what I said was the eliminate tax shelters and handouts for the super rich, which includes all the MEGA giant corporates. especially all the MEGA oil companies who are directly responsible for the world's current economic recession.



another scenario that doesn't exist and will never exist. what I suggested was the super rich and folks that don't pay ANY taxes both start paying their share.

folks that make $250k are the backbone and drivers of jobs... they need to be left alone.

And what I'm saying is that there is no possible way to tax our way out of this. I don't care if you take away the tax shelters, tax the super-rich, rich, middle-class, or every person and corporation in the country at 100%. If you took everything--100% of income from 100% of people and corporations--it would take seven or so years (or more--the estimates are now above $100T) to pay it off.

The money Just. Isn't. There. The promises are no good. It cannot be done. A bunch of promises are simply going to have to be broken. The only way to "fix" the country is to reduce spending, and that means reneging upon promises. The promises are bigger than the possible income, so we have to welsh. Sorry, but the numbers aren't lying. Your elected officials have lied to you for decades, promising things like a "trust fund" that's nothing more than the government promising to pay the government back. The money is gone. Spent. It bought a military to piss in cornflakes all over the world, a welfare society to make sure that nobody has to work, all kinds of "scientific" studies in this country and others, foreign aid to countries that hate us anyway, and a million other things. But it's gone. Spent. Squandered. Kaput. And now that it's gone, it can't be spent to keep old promises.

To be entirely fair, the Baby Boomers who are about to lose their Social Security cheques kind of (collectively) deserve it--they are the ones who elected the assclowns who decided to spend the money in the first place.

 

[Edgar Derby]

Ron Paul is still the best pick out of what is the sorriest lineup on both sides in recent memory. too bad he's got about as much charisma as a brown paper bag.

I just don't think so anymore. I don't care about charisma and I don't think he's a loon(@308BH). I also realize I'm talking about a Doctor. I just don't think he has very much common sense. I wish I could put his conviction with Newt Gingrich's political intelligence. That would rock.

 

[_CY_]

economics is and has been a passion of mine for quite sometime...
99% of the time what folks talk about vs what topics economist are concerned with rarely ever match.

so basically what you're saying here is that you don't understand economics

 

[Captain Fuzzybritches]

are you one of those guys who just reads a lot of ludwig von mises because if so lol

 

[been]

what do you think of Austrian Economics?

 

[Captain Fuzzybritches]

it's widely acknowledged as stupid for a reason and it has nothing to do with a Vast Consipiracy

 

[_CY_]

here's the current slate of topics that's in the news for economists. http://www.economist.com/economics

look it over and tell me if there's ANYTHING that remotely follows what regular folks talk about. or heaven forbid ... what's on Fox News, where I suspect a large number of folks gets their economic "facts"

 

[Captain Fuzzybritches]

LOL if you think "The Economist" is actually aimed at economists