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If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.
Romney is just a slicker haircut and a couple millions dollars richer than Obama. And more desperate too methinks.
 

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If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.
Romney is just a slicker haircut and a couple millions dollars richer than Obama. And more desperate too methinks.

When the lesser of two evils is the best choice you have, it is better to move towards the good. The report by the Fed gives the reason plain enough for anybody to understand. In the last three years reported (Jan 2008- Jan 2011) the Median real income fell by 7.7%, with the decline affecting all income groups except “retirees and other nonworking families.” Median net worth declined by 40%, erasing 18 years of savings and investment for the average family. While much of the net worth is due to the housing bubble bursting, not all is.
 

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Not even close, let's look at a couple of obama's appointments (to his cabinet).Rahm Emanuel and Eric Holder, this is his legacy.....nuff said.

Would not George Shultz's positions on the drug war and racial quotas in the private sector be "evil liberal ideology"?

What about Edwin Meese and Dick Thornburgh refusing to investigate the Justice Department's involvement in software piracy?

Or Anne Gorsuch's refusal to turn over to Congress records of where certain money had been "spent"?

Or Reagan's direct funding of terrorism that severely dwarfs Obama's?



"Conservatives" want someone like Reagan. They say so constantly on the radio and TV. Conservatives are calling on Mitt to be "more like Reagan" in hopes that a certain bloc of swing voters that have bought into the conservative mass media's revision of the Reagan era.

Which is truly worse when history is considered over rhetoric?
 

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When the lesser of two evils is the best choice you have, it is better to move towards the good. The report by the Fed gives the reason plain enough for anybody to understand. In the last three years reported (Jan 2008- Jan 2011) the Median real income fell by 7.7%, with the decline affecting all income groups except “retirees and other nonworking families.” Median net worth declined by 40%, erasing 18 years of savings and investment for the average family. While much of the net worth is due to the housing bubble bursting, not all is.

By voting for the lesser of two evils, you (not literally you RickN) are enforcing the current party lines. When both parties know and can control that you only have two choices, the two choices have no reason to be unique, special, or truly different. All the candidates have to do is be only slightly better in your eyes. This is like how there is often a CVS and Walgreens across from each other. However, small businesses cannot compete with a giants like Walgreen's or CVS and so they beat them out because they have such different standards.
If you, as a voter, adopt your own strategy that dictates the candidate satisfy set-in-stone standards and do not waiver, you throw this dynamic off. If you don't go to Walgreens or CVS because they are convenient, but instead go to your mom-and-pop grocery store because you support what you believe in.
You are forced to settle for "the not bad one" because you have no choice. Imagine what a three party system would be like...each candidate would have to be different and principled to distuingish themselves. Either abstain, choose a third party candidate (if possible), or write in...otherwise you are (again not just you Rick) are more of the bleating sheep following the used-car shepherd Obomney.
 
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When the lesser of two evils is the best choice you have, it is better to move towards the good. The report by the Fed gives the reason plain enough for anybody to understand. In the last three years reported (Jan 2008- Jan 2011) the Median real income fell by 7.7%, with the decline affecting all income groups except “retirees and other nonworking families.” Median net worth declined by 40%, erasing 18 years of savings and investment for the average family. While much of the net worth is due to the housing bubble bursting, not all is.
Dec 2007-Dec 2010 is more accurate.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/bulletin/2012/pdf/scf12.pdf
 

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By voting for the lesser of two evils, you (not literally you RickN) are enforcing the current party lines. When both parties know and can control that you only have two choices, the two choices have no reason to be unique, special, or truly different. All the candidates have to do is be only slightly better in your eyes. This is like how there is often a CVS and Walgreens across from each other. However, small businesses cannot compete with a giants like Walgreen's or CVS and so they beat them out because they have such different standards.
If you, as a voter, adopt your own strategy that dictates the candidate satisfy set-in-stone standards and do not waiver, you throw this dynamic off. If you don't go to Walgreens or CVS because they are convenient, but instead go to your mom-and-pop grocery store because you support what you believe in.
You are forced to settle for "the not bad one" because you have no choice. Imagine what a three party system would be like...each candidate would have to be different and principled to distuingish themselves. Either abstain, choose a third party candidate (if possible), or write in...otherwise you are (again not just you Rick) are more of the bleating sheep following the used-car shepherd Obomney.

Sorry but with political types if you abstain they think you are happy with who ever is in office. If you write-in it is the same as abstaining because it makes no difference. A third party candidate is the best choice when there is a decent one which I do not think we had this year. Which leaves the only choice as voting the lesser evil and pushing for change within the party.

And yes Hobbes it was Dec 2007, the last day of 2007 to be exact.
 

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