Well, that is a lie, read what Badge Bunny posted her husband is a officer. Or better yet call osbi and ask if your ccw license is connected to your license plate.
Thats why you inform the officer when you get pulled over.
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Well, that is a lie, read what Badge Bunny posted her husband is a officer. Or better yet call osbi and ask if your ccw license is connected to your license plate.
Thats why you inform the officer when you get pulled over.
Do you know how long it takes to run a tag, get someone's name and then have a background run and THEN chase them down?? No offense to the OP but I am just wondering if there wasn't a misunderstanding somewhere ... you know ... in the heat of the moment.
Besides being a permit holder doesn't necessarily make you an "okay" guy ... I will admit that it makes it more likely you will be an "okay" guy, but apparently Mr. Couch was a little bit sideways ...
Whether we like it or not officer discretion is a vital component of police work. If the officer can articulate that he had reasonable suspicion of imminent danger and he followed procedure then it is a good stop, even if it was offensive to the OP. (And I am not saying I wouldn't be indignant if the same thing happened to me, but that still doesn't make it an actionable issue legally.)
I just asked a Tulsa officer and he said license plates don't tell them if you have a CCW
No, you do not get driver information from a license plate. What you get is who the car is registered to, which may or may not be the driver.
So ... if an officer runs a plate and then uses that information to run a CCW check then all he knows is whether the person the vehicle is REGISTERED to is a CCL holder or not ...
That is why I think there must have been a misunderstanding at the scene. But like everyone else here, I am only guessing, because I wasn't there.
Regardless, I think that this is a valuable lesson to all of us to keep our weapons, which we are carrying as the result of a CONCEALED CARRY license, concealed.
That may be true, but it would take a while, and based off the story of the OP, this went down fast, doubt he called in got the driver info of the plate, then called up osbi to inquiry about a ccw, cause if he had done that I suspect the whole thing would have gone down differently.
Someone isn't telling the whole truth, the officer or the OP, about the officer knowing he had a ccw from the plate.
Just my two cents
Why do people keep missing that a permit does not allow you to display a weapon?
He DID NOT display a weapon, not that displaying a weapon is in ANY way illegal! It is perfectly legal to have an unloaded weapon in plain sight in or on a vehicle.
Granted, the weapon was loaded, but the cop had no way to know that without stopping him, so, what was the probable cause to stop him in the first place??
Wonder if the cop stops everyone with a rifle in the back window of a pick-up just in case it is loaded?
He was carrying legally, then his concealed weapon was accidentally exposed. He DID NOT "brandish" or "display" a weapon.
If I was the OP, I believe I'd be having a visit with the DA ASAP and discuss probable cause for stopping me in the first place.
Granted, the weapon was loaded, but the cop had no way to know that without stopping him, so, what was the probable cause to stop him in the first place??
Wonder if the cop stops everyone with a rifle in the back window of a pick-up just in case it is loaded?
He was carrying legally, then his concealed weapon was accidentally exposed. He DID NOT "brandish" or "display" a weapon.
If I was the OP, I believe I'd be having a visit with the DA ASAP and discuss probable cause for stopping me in the first place.
We're not missing that. But from the OP, it sounded like at worst, it was an incidental accident. A very strict interpretation is that yes, he broke the law, but not on purpose.
As for the rest, I don't know any better than any of you (in fact, likely many of you do know better than I), and perhaps the OP is just full of it. It just strikes me as odd that so many are so quick to call bullsh*t on him so fast for what seems to be a reasonable post.
Honestly, I don't know how long it would take to use registration information to query whether the driver (or assumed driver) had a CCW. It just didn't sound unreasonable to me that it could be done. And yes, for all I know, the OP could've been flashing his piece around and then came on here and said it was the wind that briefly exposed it. It just doesn't make sense to me that he would bother making a thread about that.
Well, I don't know about anybody else but I was not, and am not now, calling bullsh*t on his story. However, what little I know about police work and the LOT I know about the legal system and having dealt daily for about 20 years with clients of all kinds, I am pretty damned sure there is more to the story than what has been posted here. There always is ... sometimes that is a good thing and sometimes that is bad and for my part, I don't get paid to sort it out anymore so I will lose no sleep over this.
But I will tell you unequivocably that your conceal carry license is NOT in any way tied to your driver's license, your vehicle tag number or your vehicle registration. And to get that information takes time ... more time that an officer would have had to see you and light you up like the OP has represented has happened here.
ETA: and I see you have been a member since July of this year ... Don't know how long you have lurked but I can tell you that this thread is TAME compared to what you will see if you hang around here long enough. OSA is a IDIOT MAGNET for poor, ne'er do well, citizens offended by the JBTs of our fair state. (Not necessarily the OP, mind you, just in general ...)
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